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hello i am looking to buy pure nzw or a cross of the nzw and the California white or pure California whites.I would like young adults but may would consider trading my babies for yours or consider buy babys. Right know i got 1 buck 3 does all nzw so i will need 1 or 2 more bucks 6 months or older and atleast 10 more does. I need them for meat production not show. Im not going to need them tell March I have to get my new shed built next month i just want to find breeders in my area that will have stock for sell in a month or 2 i went to my local swap and the only guy who had rabbits did not know there age or anything so im looking for someone that knows there rabbits.
 

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There's a goodly number of shows in your state coming up----

http://www.arba.net/Shows.php#MO

Even if you don't find what your looking for you can perhaps meet some folks who'll have what you want in the future, or can put you in the right direction. Try this Yahoo group too-

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Meatrabbits/?yguid=72050093

If I really was interested in producing high gain meat rabbits I'd consider getting a pair of Altex terminal sires from Texas/Alabama A&M and cross them on my Cal and NZW does, that would be the way to go-

http://users.tamuk.edu/kfsdl00/altex-article.html

http://users.tamuk.edu/kfsdl00/rabb.html

http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/79/5/1173

http://www.asas.org/abstracts/mtgabs/rabbitsym.pdf

Listings of Meat rabbit breeders

http://www.rudolphsrabbitranch.com/rrrbrdusa.htm

Good Luck!!!
 

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thank forgot to check there though it hard to get a weekend of at my hubbys work
do people bring there meat proucing rabbits there i dont want show stock im trying to get set up to sell to a company that needs rabbit meat
 

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hello i am looking to buy pure nzw or a cross of the nzw and the California white or pure California whites.I would like young adults but may would consider trading my babies for yours or consider buy babys. Right know i got 1 buck 3 does all nzw so i will need 1 or 2 more bucks 6 months or older and atleast 10 more does. I need them for meat production not show. Im not going to need them tell March I have to get my new shed built next month i just want to find breeders in my area that will have stock for sell in a month or 2 i went to my local swap and the only guy who had rabbits did not know there age or anything so im looking for someone that knows there rabbits.

The "meat" breed of NZW and the "show" breed of NZW are quite different. If you do not care about the looks of your rabbits, (those developed for meat have thinner heads, and aren't quite as "pretty", but they produce more meat/amount-feed, faster) Southwest Missouri is (or at least was) one of the largest rabbit meat producing areas in the country (eg Bass Equipment Co) If you contact them or Pel-freeze (if it still exists) they can probaly give you the name of several meat breeders in your area. Hope this helps.
 

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If you want them for commercial production then you want rabbits from a commercial breeder, although many of the older show breeders still have lines with good production. Still someone might be able to push you in the right direction at a show, rabbit people are few and far between and often know each other. I still think that the Altex is the way to go, their supposed to pack the meat on fast. Do try that Yahoo Meat Rabbits group, nice group of folks, surely someone can give you a name or two.
 

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thank forgot to check there though it hard to get a weekend of at my hubbys work
do people bring there meat proucing rabbits there i dont want show stock im trying to get set up to sell to a company that needs rabbit meat
If you are planning to sell to Pel-Freez, I would suggest you stay
away from the Altex.

There is only one variety of Californians. They are white with
dark points. There are no blues, reds, or blacks like the NZ.
I have no idea as to why Pel-Freez calls them
"California whites". I guess they are clueless about
the name of the breed as well.

FYI,
As a longtime producer for Pel-Freez, I would suggest that you
carefully consider having many Californians unless you have other
markets for them. In the past, they have stopped purchasing
Californians. They only started again when so many NZW producers
went out of business. I would not be surprised if they changed
the rules again once the inventory is re-established.

Good luck with your venture.
Linda Welch
http://www.texasrabbitconnection.com
 

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Yes i am planning on going with pel-freez im waiting on the grower number if i dont get accepted by them i know a few people and a few reptile places i want to call and see if there interested in buying from me. Right now until i hear from them im staying small and selling local. I had though of asking them if a altex was ok thought about getting a buck breeding my nzw does then breeding the baby girls back to a nzw buck maybe to get rid of the grey poiints on them. Dont know much about gentics it might be a wast of time.


i thought they were cali whites to i seen lots of site call them that. Learn something new every day.



Thanks for the info maybe ill look for just nzw

i had qotes in here but it was saying my message was to short:shrug:
 

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Thanks for the info maybe ill look for just nzw
Something to consider...................

There are always people looking for NZW breeding stock.
Not that you are asking for my opinion but you will find that
you can make a lot of extra $$$ (above the fryer sales)
if you have purebred NZW or Cals. I've raised Altex as Pel-Freez
once accepted them. Altex are also available in the albino white
as well as the Californian looking variety. I made far more money
from sales of NZW than I did from Altex or by using the Altex
as a terminal sire for fryer production.

With the tight profit margin on fryers, it makes sense (to me)
to be able to take advantage of any additional market that is
more profitable.

In no way should this be taken as telling you what to do or how
to proceed. I'm only offering my experiences.

Good luck!

Linda Welch
 

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Thanks Linda, did not know that Pel-Freez didn't always take pointed rabbits like Cals. The few commercial buyers we have out here aren't as rigid. Checked their site out Mamato, FAQ said they'd like you to buy JR rabbits from someone that they recommend so try there-

http://growers.pel-freez.com/
 

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Thanks Linda, did not know that Pel-Freez didn't always take pointed rabbits like Cals. The few commercial buyers we have out here aren't as rigid.
They probably don't have the biological customer base as P-F.
Some of the restrictions placed on the growers are based on
the demands from their biological customers and the FDA.
The albino rabbits have to be separated from the Cals for
processing. According to what we are told, many of their
customers only want products from albino rabbits.

Linda Welch
 
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