Need seals for an old Ariens roto tiller

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  1. fishhead

    fishhead Well-Known Member Supporter

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    How can I find tiller seals for my old Ariens front tined rototiller? I would guess that it is 40-50 years old.

    I can't keep lube in it and have gotten it so hot that it smokes a bunch of times. Surprisingly it still works.

    Or maybe there is some thick grease that I could fill it with instead of 80-90 wt gear lube?
     
  2. Darren

    Darren Still an :censored:

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    Look for 00 grease. Double aught. That was recommended for the front axle seals of a Ford MFWD. Agip has it. Might not be available in small containers.
     

  3. Cabin Fever

    Cabin Fever Life NRA Member since 1976 Supporter

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    Your might want to try corn head grease. It is a solid when the gearbox is not being used. It turns into more of a liquid gear lube when the gearbox is running.

    If you can't find a source for new seals, you might be able to make your own using a cereal box or by using RTV silicone gasket sealant on one of the mating surfaces.
     
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  4. alleyyooper

    alleyyooper keeper of the bees Staff Member Supporter

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    I weould think Ariens would still carry the seals and if not maybe have a part number you could cross check from.


    :D Al
     
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  5. Bearfootfarm

    Bearfootfarm Hello, hello....is there anybody in there.....? Supporter

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    There should be a part number stamped on the side.
    If there is, you may be able to find a replacement here:
    http://www.agrisupply.com/

    Or here:
    https://www.grainger.com/

    If there's no part number you'll need to take precise measurements of the shaft surfaces where the seal needs to fit.
     
  6. CIW

    CIW Well-Known Member

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    Go to kaman.com/bearings-power-transmission. There is likely a store somewhere near you, or you can order direct from the website.
    They are a national bearing and seal supply company. If you tell them the application, an exact shaft size and the size of the housing recess they can send you the correct seals.
    A majority of the time though, there will be an international number on a most of the seals and bearings used clear back into the 40's. You can give that number to the bearing shop. They then can reference the needed seal.
    Get your magnifying glass out. Some of those numbers can be pretty small.
     
  7. FarmboyBill

    FarmboyBill Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Theres a Kaman in Tulsa. Ive bought from them before.
     
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    NAPA can cross reference if you have the part# off the old seal or else they have to know the OD and the shaft diameter.
     
  9. farminghandyman

    farminghandyman Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Check the bearing while your at it, if the seal is gone many times the bearing is going,