NAIS is dead!!!!

Discussion in 'Cattle' started by RedGeranium, Nov 28, 2006.

  1. RedGeranium

    RedGeranium Well-Known Member

    Jun 29, 2004
  2. onecowenuf

    onecowenuf Member

    Oct 17, 2006
    Don't you beleive it. Its just a bait and switch. They're just trying to turn the heat up a little slower so little froggy doesn't realize he's being cooked. Don't you think it is a little fishy how they put that out the night after Thanksgiving with no press conference or anything? They are just playing the spin game.

  3. Faith Farm

    Faith Farm Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2004
    "Under our current authorities, USDA could make the NAIS mandatory, but we are choosing not to do so -- again, participation in every component of NAIS is voluntary at the federal level. "

    I believe this slithering presentation of a completely voluntary program
    is bogus. How many volunteer farms will be required to become acceptable?
    Do you really think this program is going away?

    Put the frog in the pot of nice cool water then turn on the burner. The meal
    will be served when the time is right.

    The program needs to be rewritten completely not postponed.
  4. Ken Scharabok

    Ken Scharabok In Remembrance

    May 11, 2002
    Personally I take the statements at their face value. NAIS would have been both horribly expensive and horribly complicated to administer with very little benefits in the end. I don't think it is postponed. I think it is dead for all intents and purposes.

    Fear of Mad Cow Disease has faded to where confirmation of cases doesn't even get much press now. Two U.S. homegrown MCD/BSE cases have been confirmed. Both were found to be a different stain than the Canadian/European ones. It is starting to look more and more like some cases of BSE can be simply spontaneous, just like CJD in humans. If so, there would be absolutely no preventive measures, nor would tracking be required.

    Something like hoof and mouth disease is far more likely to originate in the hog industry where NAIS would have been almost impractical to start with due to sheer turnover volume.
  5. JeffNY

    JeffNY Seeking Type

    Dec 13, 2004
    New York
    Lets say this is true. The reason this might have become more of a voluntary program, is because of the logistics of actually implanting a chip in every last farm animal out there. Trying to track down a horse, or a single cow way up in some hill would be impossible. Is someone going to come along and say "Hey that there feller up there, has a cow, no chip der'". It would become extremely expensive for the government to actually do it. The voluntary part might be for those who want to export beef to foreign countries, you want a paper trail for an animal. However that in itself isn't easy. Because many large cattle yards buy animals from others, who might not use NAIS. However those who sell to the yards, might implement it so they too can sell. If you think about it, it could be one of those things that trickle down, and before you know it, you finding yourself implementing it, then the next guy. Because you might be in the beef buisness, and perhaps that animal with a paper trail could be worth more, because the market is different. Think about that, perhaps thats what they want to see happen, or know could happen regardless of it being mandatory. Because there could be that demand for something that is more concrete.

    Of course it would be a big joke, and would throw NAIS out the window if an animal who had a paper trail, didn't have any signs of BSE, then comes down with it, all by herself/himself. Think about the implications of that for NAIS.

  6. JulieLou42

    JulieLou42 Well-Known Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    North Central Idaho, Zone 5
    Look for it buried in some unrelated, offbeat legislation with an MOU or MOA -- acronyms for Memorandum of Understanding or Memorandum of Agreement -- that'll have the States carrying the ball on it, just like they've done with the National ID number for us humans. They get each State to come on board with the program...same way used to get IRS and Social Security enacted in the States...again, totally VOLUNTARY, and were that NOT SO, it would be INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE, violating the 13th Article in Amendment of the Constitution.

    You're right on with those slow cooked frogs. You absolutely cannot trust the national legislators...or administration. Be glad that it's politcally balanced, maybe they'll accomplish nothing much...Will Rogers said, "When Congress is in session, hold on to your wallets." Good advice.