A few years ago was talking to a fellar who said he shoots two balls through his smoke stick. Said he puts in a little bit of extra charge to fire the two balls. Says he hunts this way. Has anyone here ever done such a thing? If so what was the results? Also, in a magazine, I read that you can take a spent 20 guage shell, remove the primer and replace with a new primer, trim off the end where it folded down to keep the shot in. Now load the empty cartridge as if you were loading a muzzle loader (powder, wad, ball) and presto! You can shoot your shotgun muzzle loading style! Has anyone here ever done such a thing as this? If so what was your results? Also, wondering about this, how many grains does a shotgun shell hold of it's factory load? How much compared to using say 90 grains of black powder? I have not tried any of these methods. Would like to know more about them before attempting. Don't want to blow my face off.