[breezynosacek]

If you were the only one in a rural community that grew medicinal herbs and the worst case scenerio actually came to pass...can't buy/sell/trade without a chip implant or the economy collapsed...and you wanted to be able to help those in your community who couldn't buy medicine What Would You Grow?

I've already figured English Hawthorne and/or Foxglove as my hubby has bad heart...

What would you consider the most essential for a community to have available. People can survive colds but then you have diabetics, asthmatics (which was covered on the other thread), hypertension, gout, arthritis, liver disorders, viruses, wounds, hemoraghing from childbirth, toothaches, earaches, allergic reactions to bee stings/foods, kidney infections, chronic pain, inflamation, cancers and the list can go on and on.


If seeds and plant starts or climate were not an issue, what would you grow? And please if you post something that needs to be indoors, let us know.

 

[Guest]

Under such circumstances probably marijuana. We could smoke it and take our mind off the problems.

 

[stoneground]

Everyone has different favorites, but I would say garlic would be one I would choose. Comfrey, yarrow, catnip, nettle, white willow, motherwort, lungwort, goldenseal, blackberry, elderberry, thyme, coltsfoot, horehound, sage, mint, wintergreen, chamomile, dandelion, St. John's Wort... and I know there are many more. It is illegal to grow opium poppies, so perhaps wild lettuce as a substitute. Some of these can be foraged and some would need to be planted. Some have medicinal and food value. I like and use ginger, but it would not grow here unless it was grown inside. Licorice is another valuable herb, oh, and Joe Pye weed and Boneset. Hyssop, Meadowsweet, rugosa rose (for rose hips), yelllow dock, lemon balm, Lady's Mantle, hops, and more!!

I hope this is helpful.

Peace and Love,
nancy in the Catskills

 

[breezynosacek]

I just found out something exciting! They have an Herbal PDR available.

I bought a used one from www.biblio.com but it was the only one they had.

Found another site that has some used ones...if you are interested.

http://www.fetchbook.info/PDR_for_Herbal_Medicines.html

 

[Swampdweller]

Chip implants ? Sounds like a red herring.
Try living in today's world without the social security number.
Then come and tell us if chip implants would change anything.

Swampdweller

 

[goatlady]

Echinacea for sure. Better yet learn what herbs grow wild in your area and how to wildcraft them and prepare for use. Swampdweller you do not presently need a SS# to buy groceries or any thing else. Dod you read the recent articles concerning the implantable chip that was introduced in Paris, France last week by American Digital Company? It is small enough to be implanted via syringe just under the skin of the hand or arm. No red herrings. It is available right now.

 

[westbrook]

yarrow - stops bleeding and used like asprin
yarrow and comfry for bursies and sprains
Feverfew for arthritis, migraines and allergies

 

[Laura]

Adding to the list of herbs to grow already mentioned is shepard's purse to stop bleeding, pennyroyal for hemmorage, garden nightshade for high blood pressure-stress-sedative, horsetail grass for arthritis and to heal bones and cartilage, lots of violets for nutrition and to use as a blood purifying tonic.....almost everything growing around here has food or medicinal value. I have seeds put away to grow psychotrophic plants if I ever need them.

 

[havellostmywings]

No one has mentioned willow yet.... best for mild fevers and pain, its where we get aspirin from..

I have 5 herbals... from the original one that Culpepper wrote Years ago... to one I found recently online on a Cherokee Indian Site...

My husband was a medic in Special Forces and has a "bible" he put together from then that is also a big help. He can set bones, has done simple surgeries, stitches and has delievered babies.... so I have that as a plus.

I truly recommend you find a book that not only tells you about what the herbs do, but how to prepare them also as well as amounts to use.

Foxglove for digitalin.. can be dangerous you really have to watch the amount you give..

Lynn in Texas

 

[Soni]

Sassafras and milk thistle (seeds) for liver problems.

 

[breezynosacek]

Adding to the list of herbs to grow already mentioned is shepard's purse to stop bleeding, pennyroyal for hemmorage, garden nightshade for high blood pressure-stress-sedative, horsetail grass for arthritis and to heal bones and cartilage, lots of violets for nutrition and to use as a blood purifying tonic.....almost everything growing around here has food or medicinal value. I have seeds put away to grow psychotrophic plants if I ever need them.

I didn't know about the horsetail grass, I'm taking glucoseamine right now and the psychotropics sounds like something I used to do but don't anymore :haha:

Hey, Swamp you need to go back and read the article on the chip implant. They are serious about this. :no:

 

[breezynosacek]

No one has mentioned willow yet.... best for mild fevers and pain, its where we get aspirin from..

I have 5 herbals... from the original one that Culpepper wrote Years ago... to one I found recently online on a Cherokee Indian Site...

My husband was a medic in Special Forces and has a "bible" he put together from then that is also a big help. He can set bones, has done simple surgeries, stitches and has delievered babies.... so I have that as a plus.

I truly recommend you find a book that not only tells you about what the herbs do, but how to prepare them also as well as amounts to use.

Foxglove for digitalin.. can be dangerous you really have to watch the amount you give..

Lynn in Texas

I definitely understand and appreciate your concern...Years ago I was into medicinal herbs but it was for minor stuff, just neighborhood ladies.

Hubby was an EMT years ago, and was in Fire Squad in military during Viet Nam and still has a lot of info stored in that brain of his.

My pastor, who should join us if we ever bug out was a specialist in the military (no, i don't know his classifications or anything, just some of the stuff he's told us tells me he could handle just about anything scientifically) for "contagious diseases" he's up on all that germy warfare stuff. Knows how to draw blood, study slides under microscopes ect. Has a lot of lab experience which is wonderful.

Both have some feild medicine experience and all of us, including pastors wife are high in the science areas. Consider us "science nerds". I scored 98% in state of WV for sciences. I never have had a problem following journals or med. histories and profiles.

Nice of you to have a hubby who can do all that stuff. Might really come in handy.
Me, I'm just making sure that I have what is necessary when the time arises that we need it.

 

[Swampdweller]

My apologies in not making my thoughts more clear concerning implants.
I'm fully aware of their availability today. But I am skeptic that this is the "mark". Mark comes from "charagma" in the greek. It means, basically, "badge of servitude". The captive Isrealites, back in Egypt, were forced to wear such a "mark" when moving from place to place or when in search for work. All Isrealites of the day, barring the priests (Levites), were owned by a master and were protected and enabled to function in public by the fact that they wore their master's "charagma". This identified them as not being alien, or runaway. They could buy, in secret.; they could sell, for far less than value, both without the "mark". But it was dangerous and very inconvenient.
Today, by recent (last ten years) US legislation, you cannot get a driver license, professional license, permits, insurance, employment, bank accounts, most investments, guns, credit or marraige license, public education, etc. without the social security number. There are stores now that won't accept cash. Where do you get checks or credit cards ? Social security number. At least 170 other nations, so far, are users of the social security system, and members of interpol. I am afraid that we may have been duped by Roosevelt with his "new deal". I hope I'm proven wrong.

Swampdweller

 

[breezynosacek]

My apologies in not making my thoughts more clear concerning implants.
I'm fully aware of their availability today. But I am skeptic that this is the "mark". Mark comes from "charagma" in the greek. It means, basically, "badge of servitude". The captive Isrealites, back in Egypt, were forced to wear such a "mark" when moving from place to place or when in search for work. All Isrealites of the day, barring the priests (Levites), were owned by a master and were protected and enabled to function in public by the fact that they wore their master's "charagma". This identified them as not being alien, or runaway. They could buy, in secret.; they could sell, for far less than value, both without the "mark". But it was dangerous and very inconvenient.
Today, by recent (last ten years) US legislation, you cannot get a driver license, professional license, permits, insurance, employment, bank accounts, most investments, guns, credit or marraige license, public education, etc. without the social security number. There are stores now that won't accept cash. Where do you get checks or credit cards ? Social security number. At least 170 other nations, so far, are users of the social security system, and members of interpol. I am afraid that we may have been duped by Roosevelt with his "new deal". I hope I'm proven wrong.

Swampdweller

That many people use the Soc. sec. #? And what kinda stores are there that won't accept cash? Which country are they in?

Greatgrandpa was a preacher and he hollered for years that the Social was the mark. I ain't got it implanted or tattooed on me.

 

[breezynosacek]

What if, what they plan to do with the Soc. Sec. # is to put it in the implant as the identifying #?

 

[comfortablynumb]

opium.
not because youll want to escape, but there will be times youll give your right arm for a painkiller that actually works.

not to mention opium is quite good for stomach cramps, lots of other things..

oh and as another post observed.... a coupious amount of mary jane will be of great use.... many ills are relieved by it. most of all the fact your gonna die a horrible death if you get an infection and cant beg borrow or steal antibiotics.
the opium will fix that too.

ilegal now yes, but if your ggoing to be living on what you can grow, dont discount these 2. Go research the uses raw and semi refined opium has in herbal medication.

I suggest, if you havent already, you stock up and hide a good amount of ETHER. it is cheap, easy to get from most science school supply houses. It doesnt break down with age, and if you need patched up or operated on to ? , youll thank god you had some ether on hand. also get a military medical handbook that discribeds in detail HOW to use ether... used right its a godsend, used badly youll be taking a dirt nap after you choke for an hour.

not to mention, a light sniff will calm the nerves while the opium ripens :haha:

 

[Soni]

Don't forget that it is EXTREMELY flammable/explosive. Keep away from sparks, high heat sources, etc etc. No operating by the light of a kerosene lamp with ether!

 

[breezynosacek]

opium.
not because youll want to escape, but there will be times youll give your right arm for a painkiller that actually works.

not to mention opium is quite good for stomach cramps, lots of other things..

oh and as another post observed.... a coupious amount of mary jane will be of great use.... many ills are relieved by it. most of all the fact your gonna die a horrible death if you get an infection and cant beg borrow or steal antibiotics.
the opium will fix that too.

ilegal now yes, but if your ggoing to be living on what you can grow, dont discount these 2. Go research the uses raw and semi refined opium has in herbal medication.

I suggest, if you havent already, you stock up and hide a good amount of ETHER. it is cheap, easy to get from most science school supply houses. It doesnt break down with age, and if you need patched up or operated on to ? , youll thank god you had some ether on hand. also get a military medical handbook that discribeds in detail HOW to use ether... used right its a godsend, used badly youll be taking a dirt nap after you choke for an hour.

not to mention, a light sniff will calm the nerves while the opium ripens :haha:

Okay, know all about opium, they had me on opiates for asthma, believe it or not, almost OD'd cause I got so high I forgot when I took the last dose, LOL I got access to the seeds, several types in fact. Some just low dose opium. I never knew before but it is a great poltice for pain relief as well...

Also, will look for the ether. It never even crossed my mind.

I know God still heals, but I also know it requires faith. IF things get really hairy may not be a lot of people with any faith except to save their arses.

 

[j.r. guerra in s. tx.]

I don't believe Aloe Vera has been mentioned yet in the above posts - my apologies if it has. Aloe has great healing properties for burns, cuts and sun burn. For hemorrhoids too. I read a couple of days ago that a small smooth rock warmed in the same and coated with the aloe vera juice, then applied to where 'the sun don't shine' :haha: helps you heal quicker. I don't know if it has any medicinal qualities when taken internally, but wouldn't be a bit surprised.

Aloe takes the heat fine, but does not take to cold weather. During the winter, you northerners should take it inside to be sure the plant doesn't die on you.

 

[breezynosacek]

I want to thank you all so much for your input. While you were posting away I did a little more digging.

For those that don't know...


Chasteberry for those who are going thru the change and are flooding terribly.

Cinnamon contains cinnamaldehyde that kills escherichia colir, salmonella, staphylocuccus aureces and asian flu viruses.

Burdock is good for burns, kidneys, rhuematism, lung infections, skin problems, fungal infections, tumors

Blue Cohosh promotes menstruation and labor pains. Eases cramps and speeds labor.

Black Haw normalizes contractions during childbirth, relaxes the uterous, is a sedative.

I'm still digging but I thought you might be interested. There's gonna be a lot of births one day and they might not have a doctor.