Man died today because people need their heads screw on properly.

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  1. tiffanysgallery

    tiffanysgallery Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No one was trying to say they want to take away any privileges. Since it is a fact of nature, as you mention some peoples' ability diminish with age, it might be wise to reevaluate driving qualifications regularly after a certain age.

    The driver in question was 97 years old and killed two teenagers. Not sure how that has to do with liberals, socialists & snowflakes.
     
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  2. big rockpile

    big rockpile If I need a Shelter

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    What happen was a fluke. The pavement was warm, snow falling on it turned to water, strong Cold Front brought temperatures down in the Teens in a couple minutes, instant Ice.

    Nobody was ready for it. Everyone Drivers, Law Enforcement, my wifes Office, everyone didn't see this happening.

    Seen a 70 Vehicle pile up on a Bridge one time. Just Fog but it froze on the Bridge and made ice. Friend of mine had his Pickup run over by a Semi, they went through marking the dead, my friend wasn't dead but they marked him as dead.

    What is funny this Video was on the News but this wasn't the worst Pile Up. The worst was on down by where my wifes Office was working. They actually had rescuers being shot at. But there was twice as many Vehicles Piled Up.



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  3. farmrbrown

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    Oh I know, we had one of those :eek: events last month.
    Freezing fog.
    But the fog gets so thick here in the mountains that it might as well been a heavy drizzle, with the predictable outcome at sub freezing temps.
    A thin layer of ice.
    Isolated area but they finally shut down that section of interstate.
    The funny thing is I did predict it a few hours before it happened and told my wife why I thought they were stupid for not seeing it was a big possibility.
     
  4. big rockpile

    big rockpile If I need a Shelter

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    Where we use to live the road never got plowed.

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  5. keenataz

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    In British Columbia we have to.
     
  6. Murby

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    Funny post and I can relate.

    Went to the gas station yesterday and the main road still had about an inch of snow covering it, and it was still snowing, albeit lightly.

    Coming home, I'm going 35mph on a 55 mph paved country road and some idiot behind me decides to pass. I'm in a 3/4 ton 4wd truck, with the 4wd engaged, going 35 to 40 and considering that I might be going to fast myself, and some moron in a car decides to pass me.
    People are just dumb.
     
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  7. melli

    melli Otiose Endomorph

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    Reminded me of a story of a woman up here who stopped on a expressway because a duck and her chicks were trying to cross the road. Well, she stopped to attend to the brood (on left side of road), and a motorcyclist with passenger rammed into her, killing one (maybe two). She was found guilty. There was a lot of chatter about that incident.
     
  8. melli

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    Obviously, many accidents are the result of not driving for the conditions (usually driving too fast). The rest are impaired drivers, and folks not sharing the road. We live in an area where there is a out-sized senior population. Friction develops when young'ins encounter a senior driver. Our local rag always has someone whining about some disrespectful driver tailgating. We've made some adjustments to our roads, the big one being signage that asks slow drivers to let traffic pass and pull over lanes. Problem is, our roads are winding affairs, with no passing lanes for miles. What rankles me is that 'some' folks seem to think are doing us all a favor by playing traffic moderator. They will cruise below the speed limit for miles, creating a train of traffic behind them. And once a passing lane comes, they speed up, creating a mass of speeding cars jockeying for position. Silly.
    I had an elderly neighbor who drove as little as possible, and I found out why one day, as I followed her. Inability to stay between the lines was disturbing (even at half the speed limit). I eventually passed her...she never looked at me. I had a chance to chat with her later about it. She was petrified of traffic passing her. Not long after, RCMP pulled her over and issued her a notice to have her driver license examined. She lost her license, and months later, moved.

    Around here, it is illegal to slam on brakes to discourage tailgater. Of course, proving one slammed on brakes to discourage tailgating would be hard. I cruise at a speed that rarely involves being passed, but if I get a 'follower', I pull over asap, and let them motor on. I prefer driving for myself, and not for tailgaters too. With a tailgater, you end up being responsible for them, as any sudden legitimate braking can result in them plowing into you.
    GTX63 - I like your #1 bullet point. Never allow a driver to dictate how you should drive. So true. Took me a while to appreciate how much simpler life is when I am not worrying about an impatient driver.
     
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  9. Redlands Okie

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    According to some deal I read a while back something like 23% of all accidents involve impaired drivers. So you all best stay alert because that leaves about 77% of accidents involving drivers who have little excuse often times............
     
  10. AmericanStand

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    So just because you can’t handle the situation you call someone a idiot, moron and dumb that can ?
    Well. I do agree with your last line, for sure , for sure.
     
  11. Murby

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    Huh? What are you talking about? I handled the situation just fine as I always do. But I do have to admit that I get a laugh and a chuckle when one of these morons ends up in the ditch because they thought the laws of physics didn't apply to them and that they "could handle the situation".
     
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    I knew what you were talking about when you described everything.
    Saw the same thing in the Beckley pass in WV during a particularly bad blizzard.
    I managed to gain the confidence of a line of 18 wheelers who let me in the "rocking chair" position, in the middle of them in the right lane. No way I wanted the left lane as it was icy and it was all I could do to see their tracks and follow. Occasionally we had to ease over to the right to hit the rumble strip to find where the lane was.:eek:
    About 20-25 mph was all we could handle and that was only on the uphill grades.
    Some fool in Ford Ranger or something flew by about 45 mph on the left.
    I saw him a few miles up the road - his headlights facing us pinned up against the left guardrail on one of those tall bridges.

    No.........I never stopped to see if he was ok. I was too busy hanging on to the wheel.

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  13. Redlands Okie

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    So when the roads have snow on them I am getting the idea that its best to stay home. BUT if its important then its best to drive way faster than the road conditions deserve.
     
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    That way you get back off the road as quick as you can, assuming you dont kill yourself or someone else in the process.
     
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    LOL. I learned the hard way, several times, about “assuming” :)
     
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  16. AmericanStand

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    Nope just calling them out on the hypocrisy of their comments.
    For instance while calling other drivers names for driving at a rate they were apparently capable of Murby was driving at a rate he apparently wasn’t confident in.

    In those conditions some people and equipment are capable of different safe speeds than others.
     
  17. Murby

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    Well ya, I'm sure a vehicles with tracks instead of rubber tires could go faster, but not a vehicle with tires.

    Too many drivers don't seem to comprehend the surface relationship between frozen water and vulcanized rubber, which is why people end up in the ditch or co-joined with trees.
     
  18. AmericanStand

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    And other drivers don’t take things like skill , experience,awareness, and equipment into account.
    For instance most pickup trucks are badly balanced and some cars are perfectly balanced , have studded tires , 4wd, automatic transmissions, four wheel steering and independent suspension.
    Obviously for equally skilled drivers the driver in the latter car would have a advantage.
     
  19. mreynolds

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    The people that own cars like that seem to be the ones that don't own an alarm clock.
     
  20. coolrunnin

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    Actually tracks on ice really suck, wheeled is better.