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Canada and the US both indicate that the M.C.problem most likely came from contaminated feed!!!! My question is, if the canadian angus cow in May of2003 and the holstien in washington were the first cases in north america,WHERE IN THE WORLD DID THE INFECTED PARTS IN THE FEED COME FROM Could it be that they don'thave a clue or do they think the average cattle producer is dumb :no: :no:

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JENA

My question still is where did the infected feed come from If the goverment wants to make the claim that the problem was STARTED by bad feed THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BACK THE CLAIM WITH FACTS!!!! If they do not ,they are spreading rumors How can we get to the facts we need if this is there response :no: If the consumer is lied to we will ALL SUFFER AS PRODUCERS. On a side note there are now 30 cases of chronic wasting in deer in northern Ill. This was an isolated (3 cases) in 2002.Wisconsin was the first with a problem west of the Mississippi river then it was ILL. They still use THEORY TO EXPLAIN THE SPREAD If they do not have the answers please do not pass out theory in its place :no: :no:

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Meat and bone meal in feed suppliments from the UK was imported prior to the outbreak there. A shakey connection maybe but there never the less. Canadian officials still haven't positively made any connections but if the USDA and CFIA are talking about the same cow, then it may have shared feed with the Canadian BSE cow from a mill in Edmonton.

ROSS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPLY! Thatreinforces my theory that they are making major ASSUMPTIONS and passing them along as fact If you and I do this it affects very few people, when the goverment's do it affects us all.If the problem was caused by preban U K feed it means one of two things to me as a producer
1 if it took this many years for our 2 countries to find 2 cases, it must be a miniscule feed problem or

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The govermant is not looking hard for it in the cull cow slaughter :no:

I would like to see the USDA quit trying to shift blame. They should test a meaningfull percintage of ALL slaughter cows to VERIFY if we do have a problem. If we do then it should be delt with UP FRONT AND ABOVE BOARD not by sound bytes

The govermont's need to treat this as a REAL problem for everyone involved insted of a POLITICAL problem.Ross thank you again for the Canadian perspective!

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It seems that the U S D A is in the ignore mode.They have laid all the blame at Canada,s feet and closed the door!! If they leave an information void we will havev it filled by people like LITTLE MOM in the homesteading forum If they do NOT come forward and be proactive about this problem they will let all of the WRONG people have the stage. Posts about mad cow from childhood shots is just the tip of the iceburg. If I have to glean information from more "obscure" sources; what will I think when the word comes out that it was NOT ALL Canada's problem I will pressume the whole beef industry was covering up therw SECRETE PROBLEM!! You can bet your last dollar that the pictures that run with the story will be of the PRODUCER not the ahole that just figured it would just go away if the USDA could just whistle in the dark long enough If you want a wakeup call se how long it takes to go over all the info the USDA has passed along to your vet.My bet is you will talk about the cold weather. If this is what I pay my taxes for I am very sad Well I am off to the sale today to see what the rest of the 'mushroom' people have to say

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Mike

 

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WRAND ROSS
Thank you both for the information to help us sot out this mess.I went to the local livesock auction to check prices.They solr around 7or800 head; prices up to 81.50 on fats Feeders sold from the low 70's to high 90's.The surprising thing to me was cow prices ; old(8to11)bred cows were450to700 dollars a head and young cows going back to the farm were over 800 Slaughter Holstines were in great demand the high yield very thin cows were bringing55 to57.50 This was there first sale since the USDA reported the mad cow case in Washington State!The state vet had no information,there are no regulation changes,and it was mentioned if you had weak cattle that were potential downers, you should sell them before the regulations change Itwas very interesting to talk to other producers and hear that there big concern was lack of information from the USDA :no: :no:

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Mike