I happened to be near the lowe's on the far side of town (the one that's more country) and decided to stop in to pick up my first lye ever, the Roebic crystals. The guy in the plumbing department said it was on perpetual backorder and they basically no longer carried it because people were using it for "other things" than cleaning drains. I pointed out that internet said the other store carried it...then laughed with him about using lye for other things than drain cleaning. Ha ha. Anyway, bought it from the other store! Can't wait to make my first batch!