Living in Upper Peninsula of Michigan????

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  1. jukebox

    jukebox Well-Known Member

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    Good?
    Bad?

    Do not need employment.

    Talked to UPS and they function every day. (summer-winter)

    Live in the middle of Georgia.
     
  2. Cabin Fever

    Cabin Fever Life NRA Member since 1976 Supporter

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    Two things....

    One, you better like to shovel snow. It can get as high as your roof eaves!

    Two, your taste in music will change. You'll be listening to the Yoopers before you know it.
     

  3. AngieM2

    AngieM2 Big Front Porch advocate

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    I lived in the UP for 18 months several years ago. Munising Michigan...
    Lumberjack country. average snowfall 200 inches a year, started mid Sept and went thru May. July 4th was about 70

    Lived 2 blocks off lake Superior. Drove 44 miles to Marquette during the summer that I worked away from home, M28 along Lake Superior - incredible.

    Car broke for 2 months in the winter - we walked across town, took 30 minutes. A warm winter day was anything above 5 above 0. March 7, at nigth was -7. But when walking back from resturant on other side of town, we did stop at a friends 1/2 way and have some hot tea.

    Taverns, children drinking beer, people living until 90 and in good shape.

    One school, one library for whole town. 2 crimes the 18 months I was there.
    a bike stolen during tourist season and the hardware store window broken same tourist season.

    Breathtaking winter days of snow hip deep, and sunshine and it snowing ice flakes looking like glitter. Snowmobiles all over the place.

    Ice so thick that they had snowmobile races in March from Munising around Grand Isle and back.

    Just some of my rememberances. I was from Alabama and went up there. it was like going back 20 to 30 years in time or more. I got good used proper winter clothes and loved it up there. I hope to go back for a visit some day.

    Take a road trip and go scope it out.

    Angie
     
  4. Barb

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    That's- da Yoopers -cabin. :p

    The UP is a different world from Georgia. Some areas are good for short season farming and fairly well populated ( Sault Ste Marie or Houghton for instance) and a lot of it is swamp. Other than the snow you will also need lots of Deet. The mosquitoes and black flies are fierce. It can be a great place to live but you have to like the cold. I would love to go back and live on lake Superior but then I love the storms. In the old Countryside Mags there were a lot of articles written by people who live there. DD lived in Houghton for 7 years. She loved it there.

    Angie - always bought our pasties at Munising. Did you know the rocks fell several years ago at Munising Falls. Changed the falls.
     
  5. HUBERT

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    LIVING IN UP OF MICHIGAN CRYSTAL FALLS

    NO JOBS OR LOW PAYING JOBS

    TOO MUCH GOOD OLE BOY SYSTEM IN POLITICS

    WINTER NEVER ENDING

    NOWHERE TO EAT OR SHOP LOCAL BUSINESSES CHARGE DOUBLE YOU CAN PURCHASE THINGS ELSEWHERE.

    LOCAL BUSINESSES RAISE PRICES DURING HUNTING/TOURIST SEASON.RIPPING TOURIST/HUNTERS AND LOCALS OFF.

    OTHER THAN THAT I LIKE IT

    ONE MORE THING TOO MANY LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

    The UP is solid GOP except for Marquette, Iron River and Iron Mountain. These are small cities where the socialist/anarchist elements settled in the early 20th century. They engaged in bombings, arson, murder and other leftist actions to de-stabilize the mining industry in that period.

    Their idiot spawn still infest these areas. These people sit on their fat butts looking for welfare handouts from the government. Expect these Marxists to be out in full red goosestepping colors protesting the president. They will be overwhelmed, though, by real Americans.
     
  6. AngieM2

    AngieM2 Big Front Porch advocate

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    No I didn't know the falls changed.

    I remember living right next to the inland light house. and could look out the 2nd floor window and see the Lake.

    Also, laying in bed watching the snow drift down thru the red beam of the lighthouse light.

    And Lake Superior Lake trout caught on Miss Munising (the boat) and over to the restaraunt for dinner - outstanding.

    As you can tell - I have great memories of that place. (even running out of fuel oil during the winter, in a house built in 1903 and not insulated worth a hoot. Just wrap up very well.)

    I keep meaning to go take a summer vacation up there. And if anyone goes, check out 5 mile point in Christmas Mi, next little spot in the road west of Munising.

    And the pasties were very good in Munising..

    Angie
     
  7. Barb

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    There's a casino at Christmas now Angie.
     
  8. Maggie

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    We moved to the UP 6 1/2 years ago from SE Wisconsin. I absolutely LOVE it up here. The past month our temps. have been in the 80-90 degree range. Our garden is doing wonderful, as long as it gets watered every couple days. Rain has been a little scarce this past month. DH works 7 miles from home, has been there 5 1/2 years. Our UPS deliveries get here on time also, except during the Christmas rush, of course. We are located about 30 minutes from Lake Michigan, so our winter snows aren't as heavy as nearer to Lake Superior. There were only 2 days last winter when we did not receive mail because of the snow. Every place has bugs, spiders, black flies, snakes, etc. You decide what you would rather put up with. :) . Firewood is cheap, taxes are reasonable, maple syruping is a great time of the year (March-April), and of course, DH loves fishing and hunting. Any other ?'s. Maggie
     
  9. jukebox

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    Thank "you-all" for the positive information.

    What I found that was so interesting is that no one put the
    area as off limits. If you were to ask me about where I live, I
    could give you more negatives than positives.

    This "yooper" thingey would not create a problem because there
    are only two types of music "Georgia mountain and bluegrass". Reckon
    the "yoopers" could be converted?

    What is this black fly thing? Are they like a regular fly and do they
    bother you all summer? (We have chiggers, bad boy snakes, ticks,
    all the nasty spiders you want and gnats and------.)

    Is a 4WD vehicle a must or can you live without it?
    Does Michigan use salt on the roads in the winter?
    Can snowmobile areas be identified so you don't buy into or near one?
    We heat the house with wood for our couple of months of winter. $140 a chord.
    How much a chord in the UP?

    How is the medical treatment in that area? Are the hospitals - doctors good or does one have to travel far to get to one?

    GA taxes are not equal to NY State, but how far up the scale is it in MI?


    To C/F How is the boat?

    Thanx again
     
  10. Orville

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    Grew up in the U.P. (Keweenaw Peninsula), raised my family there. Have no regrets. Made a decent wage...better than in the South. Not as much illegal drug use as in urban areas, but lots of alcohol abuse. There are groomed snomobile trails available for snomobilers, and the trails are mapped. Get a map to see where the trail runs. Snomobilers cannot trespass on private property (although on occasion I saw them going thru my 80 acres which I hadn't posted). I don't remember what wood costs....buy a 40 of woods...land is relatively inexpensive... and cut your own year after year. Or cut tops for free in areas that are being logged. (Get permission first). Black flies are small biting insects which make a bloody wound when they bite. Usually they get you behind the ears and back of the neck. I learned to just put up with them when I gardened, or I wouldn't get anything done. Mosquitoes are bad, too. I didn't use much repellent except when stream fishing. Great hunting and fishing...deer, partridge, goose, rabbit, bear....you can always put a deer or two in the freezer each year. Yes, they use salt, but only in early and late winter, because salt is ineffective below something like 20 degrees. It will rust your vehicle. I would have a 4wd vehicle....storms can come up in a hurry and dump a couple feet of snow. I had a older Dodge Ram 4wd pickup with a snowplow mounted. It did a great job keeping the driveway clean. You'll also want a 4wd to get the firewood out of the woods...most of the logging is done in the winter, because the sap is low and the ground is frozen solid, allowing logging equipment to drive on it. Summers can be quite hot, but short. Winters can be quite cold, and long. You should like winter recreation...snomobiling, skiing, ice fishing, hunting, trapping, snow shoeing, etc, or the winters will seem interminably long. Short growing season, but can usually ripen some tomatoes and peppers. Good for apples...make lots of cider, put it in 2 litre bottles and stack them in the freezer like cordwood. Used to be lots of small farms up there...they've gone the way of most other small farms. Good technical college there...Michigan Tech. Some other community and private colleges there also. Land is real reasonable in the more rural counties. Lake Superior is a marvel....picked lots of agates on the shores. Plan everything around the cold and snow...driveways, distance to barns, outbuildings, etc. You'll be moving lots of snow. Taxes are about the same as in SC. No annual car tax. Many good medical facilities.
     
  11. HappyYooper

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    I'm a born and raised Yooper and I love it. I love the snow, rain, color change of leaves in the fall and the songs of spring. No matter where you live you will have negative factors but we learn to live with them. For me I find that community support and friendliness outweighs the negatives.
    Snowmobile trails are designated by markers and maps. Logging is done 9 months out of the year. Only time the hauling isn't done is during February-April when weight restrictions are on certain class roads. DH drives log truck.
    Can't answer your question on the price of firewood. We cut tops that are left over from logging areas with permission from the land owner. Where we are 4-wheel drive is a must. I know many that don't have it.
    Plenty of wonderful places to eat and shop. We have all the major chains of stores, Kmart, ShopKo, Walmart, Target and fast food restaraunts.
    What can I say...I love the U.P.
     
  12. mikell

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    The North shore of lake Michigan is called the Garden Pennsula because the SW winds across the lake moderate the temps quite a bit.If you feel the need to avoid snowmobiles stay where you are.


    mikell
     
  13. jukebox

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    Thanx again for all the helpful information.

    Contacted a real estate agent yesterday, in Houghton,
    so we will see what happens.
     
  14. mikell

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    Houghton = snowmobiles and college students

    mikell
     
  15. Bret

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    Come on now....You know that the waitresses at Fob's Restaurant are the best, the food is terrific. And then what can I say about their cocanut cream pie? Oh man...I'm getting light headed. Somebody help me....
     
  16. Cabin Fever

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    What boat?
     
  17. jukebox

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    Mikell
    I am open to any suggestions - tell me where you would look
    if you were me? Wish to be close to Lake Superior. Quiet area- no structured community. Want most bang for the $$$$$
     
  18. jukebox

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    The boat that you received in the
    mail from Georgia.
     
  19. Kris in MI

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    Lived in the Houghton area for two years while dh was attending Michigan Tech. Culture shock for me, who was raised near the 'big city' of Lansing. However, once we moved back downstate after dh graduated (not too many auto engineer jobs up there), we really really missed the UP.

    We are planning to retire up there in 15-20 years when the last kid is grown and married off. We will purchase a couple hundred acres, build a cabin/home before then, and when retirement day comes, sell off our (by then paid off and worth a mint) 40 acres with home and barns near Lansing.

    We will still be fairly young then (we are in our early & mid-30's now, had all four of our kids by my 26th birthday), so could freelance at hunting guide, snowmobile guide, B&B, etc. Dh really would like to start a brewpub up there somewhere that there is a big enough town but enough wilderness close by for us to live away from other people!
     
  20. Mutti

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    My folks had a cottage up at Christmas....I'd love to retire by Lake Superior....love beachcombing. Of course, you can't swim in that lake unless you are half polar bear...even wading turns your feet blue in August! They also had 40 acres out in the boonies...black bears helped them harvest the blueberries!!! Decided it was too far North for them so moved to a place near Greenbush(north of Alpena). I sure do miss Northern MI...spent all our summers there. Luckily DH goes along with plan to get some property up there for a summer place. DEE