I hope you all will be kind with me for not being "officially" a homesteader on a rural acreage, but rather an outer suburban dweller with big plans. I've been told I'm not rural, I'm "exurban." Fine. That's better than suburban or (shudder) city! But I was raised in the suburbs and so was DH. We're learning as we go. DH's idea of "livestock" at this point is two large dogs. We have 1.25 acres on a bit of a gently rolling hill, and I plan to do a LOT with it. Size of one's property matters less than its location in what you can do there. We're in an area that is "country" to the old-timers, "upscale suburb" to the newer folks. In other words, bleating goats might annoy the neighbors a little, but there are others nearby who have that and more, and our part of the township is highly agricultural, so they lack the right to complain much. In fact I'm fairly sure we're allowed to have livestock here, no zoning restrictions, based on the other neighbors who do so. I want chickens and goats. DH has been talking about getting goats for a couple of years now (before we moved here) but I think he was only "musing." I broke the news to him today that I REALLY intended to get chickens, and informed him just how we would go about doing that. He thought I was joking, then sort of rolled his eyes and pretended that he'd think about it. For him getting chickens is almost as outlandish as getting a cow. He said, "we can't. critters will get 'em." That was his argument? I was astonished. Why would critters get them more here than on a farm in a more rural setting? Surely there would be more "critters" there, not less! I told him that, and that we'd build a pen to keep them safe. He was surprised to hear that they were supposed to stay in the pen instead of just running loose all over the yard. I guess that's how most people think of chickens, free-roaming birds pecking all over the place. He also was of the opinion that a rooster was required for them to lay eggs. I got a kick out of that one. Goats? Heck, if he can't handle chickens, what will we ever do with goats? What do I do? Do I just get out there and build the dang pen myself, order the chicks and show him how it's done despite what he thinks? I'm not terribly handy, so he really has to be on board with this. Thanks for indulging me.