[Pony]

Thank you for the advice!
But i never said anybody was locked up he has free range of the pasture where the goats are but they all have a attached Barn that is on the outside of the fence and the fence meets up to the barn and he goes in the Barn at night and gets out in there. I also have had these goats for 5 years they are worked with for hours everyday. These are show goats and I spend more time with them being on a separate property then other people I know that have them at the house. I also have a 70 plus animals on our own property and they are all perfectly fine so I don't think its a matter of me not knowing how to properly care for animals. The goats home may not be where i will keep them forever. My 3 uncles, my aunt, and my dad all recently passed away so the family farm is going up for sale so i had to what i had to in the short amount of time i had to get them off of the property.

I based my response on the information you initially gave us.

Your losses are huge, and I am sorry for you.

 

[uprabbitry]

It definitely depends on your area. Some people only have to deal with minor things like skunks or hawks and others have wolves, bear, or cougars. We have goats and free-range chickens and have been fortunate to not lose a thing. But we also don't have wolves, bears, or large cats and are rural enough and with a leash law not to have loose domestic dogs. But everyone's situation is different, which is why I asked.

Thanks

 

[uprabbitry]

I based my response on the information you initially gave us.

Your losses are huge, and I am sorry for you.

Ok! Thank you!

 

[JRHill02]

Maybe I missed it.... What kind of dog? You mentioned you've had the dog for a month and it is doing these things after a whole month? So I take it you didn't get a pup and raise it for its job. You got a 2nd hand dog and are trying to acclimate it to your place? A rescue dog? An adoptee? What predominate breed? Where was it previously and what was its role?

My gosh, breeds make a difference. At the same time some dogs, in certain cases, are mixed to the point you don't know what they are. But they can be wonderful buddies and workers and protect you depending on how you raised and trained them.

But you've had it for a WHOLE month. I could go on but this I can say: you might be expecting too much for the critter to acclimate and absorb that quickly. It doesn't know its job or maybe how to be secure or even where it is. A WHOLE month? Try 3 or 6 months while actively training and teaching a new home and what it is to do.

Grrr.

 

[muleskinner2]

Predators don't punch a clock. If they are hungry, and prey is available it's dinner time. Day or night.

 

[JRHill02]

Predators don't punch a clock. If they are hungry, and prey is available it's dinner time. Day or night.

Good point. But still the dog has to know its job. And tolerating a gunshot report is important too but a different subject.

I'd like this guy to chime back if he would. I don't think new arriving dog to a different environment is unusual.

One day our dogs at that time will need a home. We can't put forest dogs into a metro home. At the same time we can't put a metro dog into a forest. Acclimation and training. Training and acclimation. Gee, didn't we train our kids like that? How did they survive?

 

[motdaugrnds]

I'm curious as to the breed and past experiences of that dog too. I don't know how we can help without a bit more information about this.

That dog pulling down barn boards to get out tells a lot about its frustration level. It could be seeing that barn, itself, as some sort of threat. (Who know at this point what that dog has gone thru in its past.) So a little more information would be helpful.

 

[Danaus29]

Last seen 2 weeks ago. Never did give any real information about the dog. I doubt they will be back.

 

[uprabbitry]

Maybe I missed it.... What kind of dog? You mentioned you've had the dog for a month and it is doing these things after a whole month? So I take it you didn't get a pup and raise it for its job. You got a 2nd hand dog and are trying to acclimate it to your place? A rescue dog? An adoptee? What predominate breed? Where was it previously and what was its role?

My gosh, breeds make a difference. At the same time some dogs, in certain cases, are mixed to the point you don't know what they are. But they can be wonderful buddies and workers and protect you depending on how you raised and trained them.

But you've had it for a WHOLE month. I could go on but this I can say: you might be expecting too much for the critter to acclimate and absorb that quickly. It doesn't know its job or maybe how to be secure or even where it is. A WHOLE month? Try 3 or 6 months while actively training and teaching a new home and what it is to do.

Grrr.

Sorry i have not answered in so long. He is a Pyrenees, Anatolian, and a sarplainac. He is a year old! Yes a second hand dog, I got him from a sheep farm they have had him since he was a pup he was living with sheep to protect them. They believe that he may have been abused as a pup before they got him he is absolutely terrified of men

 

[uprabbitry]

Last seen 2 weeks ago. Never did give any real information about the dog. I doubt they will be back.

I'm Back!

 

[altair]

What's your progress been like?

 

[uprabbitry]

I'm curious as to the breed and past experiences of that dog too. I don't know how we can help without a bit more information about this.

That dog pulling down barn boards to get out tells a lot about its frustration level. It could be seeing that barn, itself, as some sort of threat. (Who know at this point what that dog has gone thru in its past.) So a little more information would be helpful.

He is a Pyrenees, Anatolian, and a sarplainac. He is a year old! I got him from a sheep farm! They have had the dog since he was a young puppy! They think that he may have been abused when he was a pup before they got him! He is totally terrified of men. When i got him he was living with sheep but for the last month or so before i got him they were keeping him locked up in a small shed inside of the sheep pen because he jumped their fence and ran down the highway.

 

[Danaus29]

I'm Back!

All too often we get posters who ask a question and hang around a couple days, but never follow up with more information.

 

[Danaus29]

The possible abuse could be why he runs away. Did you get the dog and just stick it in with the sheep without any introduction or training period?

 

[uprabbitry]

Update! He has been doing really good! He has not tore anything apart in a while! He dig holes but not digging out of the area or even trying to get out! The only thing we have really been having to deal with is every night from 10:30-11:00pm he barks non stop. I don't know what it is that is bothering him at that time each night. I have gone out a few different time and didn't see of hear anything. 3 nights a go i put out motion activated solar lights and he has not made a noise in 3 nights! So im not sure if the lights are what helped or if something quit coming each night

 

[altair]

A great update-- thank you for coming back and providing this!

 

[uprabbitry]

The possible abuse could be why he runs away. Did you get the dog and just stick it in with the sheep without any introduction or training period?

That's what i was thinking part of it could be! I am the only person that can even pet him or go outside with out him hiding because he is so afraid of people. We introduced them several times and walked him around the perimeter several times before putting them together.

 

[Danaus29]

Pyrenees are supposed to bark at night. The bark warns predators away from the area, or that is how things are supposed to work. By barking all night do you mean an occasional "woof" or a continual "bark, bark, bark, growl, growl, bark, bark, bark"? The occasional woof is standard. If it's a continual bark/growl noise then most likely there is something there. I have found that predators get used to lights very quickly. Just be aware that there might be something prowling around out there.

 

[Danaus29]

A guard dog that is afraid of people is a problem. Is there any way you can spend a bit more time socializing the dog?

 

[uprabbitry]

Pyrenees are supposed to bark at night. The bark warns predators away from the area, or that is how things are supposed to work. By barking all night do you mean an occasional "woof" or a continual "bark, bark, bark, growl, growl, bark, bark, bark"? The occasional woof is standard. If it's a continual bark/growl noise then most likely there is something there. I have found that predators get used to lights very quickly. Just be aware that there might be something prowling around out there.

Its a continual bark for about 30minutes