I would like to find an apple variety that ripens in late Oct or on into Nov. Quality and use (well maybe one that hangs well on the tree) are of no concern as I want them for wildlife plantings (deer). I know that Northern Spy is one of the later varieties but I need one for the south (central to south Alabama) and I understand that the spy won't do down here. The majority of apples grown here are "june" apples that ripen and are gone long before fall. A crab apple would do as well. So far the only fruit that holds that late for us (that I am aware of) is certain strains of keiffer pear and some quince. Deer will eat the pear but not as readily as apples and refuse to touch the quince. An heirloom variety that can fend for itself would be a definite plus.