Kittens with diarrhea

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  1. Irish Pixie

    Irish Pixie Well-Known Member

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    I have 3- 5 month old kittens that are on antibiotics for an upper respitory infection. They have some nasty diarrhea because of the antibiotic. They're eating and drinking well, very playful (to the point of being extremely naughty). I feed them yogurt twice a day, but is there anything else I can do to stop the diarrhea?

    Their momma was a pregnant drop off (some people are such dirtbags). She delivered 6 kittens but a coyote got her when they were around 3 months old, one died, and I found a good home for two. The three that are left have wound their little bodies around our hearts and are here to stay.

    Anything you can think of to help them?

    Stacy in NY
     
  2. Little Quacker in OR

    Little Quacker in OR Well-Known Member

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    :) Well, you don't want them getting dehydrated so watch them carefully. Your Veterinarian should have some help for you with them as they are already under his/her care? Also, I'd want to be sure that the yogurt I was feeding them was a live culture as opposed to what you get in the market.

    And then..many milk products will cause diarrhea in cats and dogs so that's something to keep in mind.

    Hope they will be OK...good luck with them.

    LQ
     

  3. Irish Pixie

    Irish Pixie Well-Known Member

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    I'm watching them close for dehydration, LQ. I haven't called the Vet yet, I wanted to see if I could do something from home first. I don't want to upset them riding in the car to the Vet. I himmed and hawed about the yogurt adding to the problem and decided to try it to get their gut flora back in line. I don't give them a lot, about 1 TBS twice a day between the three.

    They are cuties. I can't even take a shower alone, they stand in between the liner and shower curtain watching me. Gave me the willies the first time they did it because I could feel someone watching me.

    Thanks,

    Stacy
     
  4. Jen H

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    Try feeding them some canned pumpkin. The straight puree, not the pumpkin pie filling. They'll suck it right on down, and the fiber will help to bulk them up. I'd start out with a tablespoon or so twice a day.
     
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    I don't know about the pumpkin, but know that feeding them rice will help with the diarhea if they will eat it.

    I had someone drop off her cats and 2 kittens once for "two weeks" while they went to look for a new place to live (the other place was sold). I guess they heard through the grapevine I had a weakness for cats. Its almost 3 years later, they still haven't come back.

    BC
     
  6. Little Quacker in OR

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    Next question. Just why do you have them on AB's without being examined by a Vet first? What was or is the problem that prompted the meds in the first place?

    And I am sorry but "not wanting to upset them by taking them to the vet in the car" is pretty lame.
    Think about it. LOL :p
    LQ
     
  7. SarahPrescott

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    Have the kittens had a stool sample checked? Intestinal parasites or coccidia can cause diarrhea in kittens. Both are easily treated. Sometimes switching foods too fast can cause diarrhea also. Definately get the kittens checked by the vet ASAP.
     
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    Yes, canned pumpkin should help, at least it is used for puppies.
     
  9. Irish Pixie

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    The yogurt is helping, their stool is still loose but is firming up. I have a very good working relationship with my Vet. I called him, said I had three kittens with a URI and he told me to pick up an antibiotic this afternoon. He knows that I can recognise a URI when I see one. We get drop offs quite frequently, he knows that I'll take care of them, get them well, and find them homes and affords me the opportunity to just pick up the meds and leave the cat/kittens at home. I dropped off a stool sample when I picked up the meds, it was clean.

    LQ-You do realise that to many cats/kittens being stuffed into a cat carrier and taken on a car ride is a stressful event? They already had diarrhea, why would I want to make it worse if I didn't have to? My Vet trusts my judgement-he should we've known each other for over 20 years. Your judgement of me is way off base, and quite rude.

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    Peace Stacy! LOL , you said nothing in your post about a "working relationship with your Vet". Or about any "trust" there. You can't expect not to get questions about this type of thing of self diagnoses...how does your Doc know that it's not distemper or one of dozens of other things? How do YOU know? Yeah, I, surely know that a ride in the car is not a cat's favorite thing. But, when you measure that up against a maybe life savng exam by a Doc, maybe cultures and blood work, fluids,what ever is needed, that "ride in the car" business just doesn't hold water.

    I am glad you are experienced, but as I am a Vet Tech of many years, I sure wouldn't assume that I could tell just what is wrong with these kittens without input from a Doctor, and I don't much respect a Veterinarian who would brush you off with that antibiotic business. Too many things can be happening with them.

    Heck, I just returned from a 100 mile drive with two white crested ducks with eye problems that I wanted an Avian Specialist to treat..no guesses!

    I wish you the best of luck and hope all goes well with the kittens and you.

    Happy Holidays ;) ......LQ
     
  11. Irish Pixie

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    I asked about yogurt for diarrhea and you took it upon yourself to lecture me about treating them without a Vet exam. They had runny eyes (clear), no nasal discharge, and sneezing. They were not desparately ill or I would have taken them to the office. I did take in a fecal when I picked up the antibiotic, as I stated before, it was clean.

    As for it being a dozen other things, I doubt it. Their runny eyes have cleared up, and they're sneezing less. As you not trusting my Vet--what's your point? I don't give a rat's pootie if you trust him or not, I do. He's sewn up my beagle, neutered upteen dogs and cats, done all my vaccinations, and is here weekly during breeding season with the horses. If you don't like that he gave me antibiotics without examing three kittens...too bad.

    I'm sick of people like you who just wait to jump on someone when they ask a question and take it upon themselves to judge others.

    Rant off.

    Stacy in NY
     
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    cool. I never heard that one before. :) I wonder if it works for ppl too?
     
  13. debitaber

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    I think little Quacker in Or. is correct. if you can't take the wuestions, then why did you ask? I have lots of livestock. I never just call and then pick up meds. and I am 58 years old, and have had livestock most of my life. I always have the vet. look at everything I have, and have him tell me what is wrong. but with people like you, it will take killing a few animals, before it will sink into your head, that you have to have a DR. look at the animal, and run the proper tests, to find out what is wrong. I hope you don't kill the kittens, trying to play dr, all over a car ride? get real, it is part ego, and part money, you don't want to pay for an office call, probably
    Oh I know you are always right. And know more about anything and everything, than other people do, ya right, can buy a hundred just like you on any street corner, your a dime a dozen. in other words, there are a lot of people just like you , know it all's, and you are doing all of this at a animals expanse. .
     
  14. Irish Pixie

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    It was most certainly NOT about money-that was a huge judgement on your part. It was knowing what was the matter with the kittens, they had a URI. I called Doc, told him the symptoms, he said, "It's a URI. Come to the office and get some Amoxicillin. Bring a fecal sample from one of them." I did, that afternoon. The kittens got diarrhea from the antibiotic, I posted to see if anyone had tried yogurt to rebalance gut flora. I get many nice helpful posts and one that asks questions, I answer said questions, and I'm immediately jumped on by the poster that isn't always polite, making judgements about something she knew nothing about. She could have asked further questions (the polite thing to do), but she didn't. Just jumped in with both feet accusing me of treating them without Vet supervision-which I wasn't.

    It certainly isn't ego either. My yearly Vet bills would stagger you. I have 4 dogs (two of which are elderly), 8 cats, and three horses, two of which are broodmares. Every animal on the place has it's species recommended shots. I was at the Vet's office with the beagle in August, as I was writing the check the receptionist said, "I'll bet every other check you've written lately is to Doc" It was, he was here at least weekly the months of June and July to check my mare's follicle for breeding. I'd pick up the shots that would make her ovulate and give it to her-he'd come back in 3-4 days to check her. Don't you people do any of your own stock heath care? Dang. I give all the yearly horse shots, except the one's that need a paper trail. I could do the pets too, except for rabies but I'd rather he did it. I don't like sticking something that small.

    I can take the questions, but many newbies can't, or won't. They get scared off by posts like these. I'm 42 and have horses and pets ALL my life, what's your point? That I can competently judge the health of MY stock? I breed high end horses, a few Vet bills certainly don't phase me.

    Stacy in NY
     
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    I was reading this because i had taken my cats to a new vet's office for yearly shots today instead of having a vet come to my house.

    I'm horrified at the rudeness here. I wish people could be more polite and nice. It's one thing to state how you would do something, but another whole thing to attack someone for the way they handle something.
     
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    Hmmm, never thought about that.
     
  17. cowgirlone

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    LQ, IMHO I think you were trying to help. :)

    Stacy, you are one of a few people on this forum that I'd be happy to let doctor my critters. (and I'm picky) I know you know your stuff and I'd trust you to do your best for them. :)

    Hope the kittens get well soon!
     
  18. wr

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    debitaber, I think you jumped to some pretty rash conclusions on this one. I been associating with Stacy for quite a while now and have never seen anything but care and concern for animals in every shape and form and I've never known her to endanger any animal or step out of her level of skill to attempt something foolish, dangerous or to attempt 'play doctor' and kill a few before she gets it right. I'm with cowgirlone on this one, I'd be more than happy to have Stacy 'play doctor' on my livestock and we have consulted on certain matters over time and I've never found her opinion and my vet's to contradict.
     
  19. debitaber

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    well perhaps I did, sorry Stacy, for jumping to conclusions, in all fairness , i don't know you. and you might know what you are doing. so I am sorry. HOWEVER, I would still have a vet, everytime over a lay person.