We kidded yesterday! First time mom - both babies in "diver" position - a welcome relief after her mom delivered a full breech and head only/legs back pair last year! First kid big and strong, but dragging hind legs...was up on them after a few hours without a problem. Got a little scared after seeing it as a symptom of CAE (weak hind legs.) Is it always? Or do some of these guys just "unfold" at different rates? Worry about White Muscle Disease - or is that overall thrift??? Second kid very small - just a rail of a thing - backbone and legs. Just fell out of mom - no birthing required! Afraid she wouldn't survive - Surprise, surprise! She was up on her feet and nursing vigorously right away - by nightfall her tummy was actually bigger than first baby... Goes to show - you never can tell!