I did a search and found a guy in NY.He has 20 seeds [I think] for 2.00.Will get some from him in a few days.I have not grown the apple shaped ones yet,I like to plant the 1st day of may.I found pictures on the net, of apple gourds painted they are so pretty and really look like apples.If I have good luck with them I can send some to you.If you decide not to plant them this year .Mary