Link: Fencing for pastureOk can you all tell me the difference between the redbrand field fence and the bekaert high tensile field fence?
Tsc prices are 159 for redbrand and 109 for the bekaert.
Does the high tensile field fence go up the same as regular field fence?
Were they unable to join in the conversation before?I am going to merge some posts from another thread for @Bekaert_Fencing so they can join in the convo.
Jeff
????For a 20 rod roll?
It was another thread from the site with some questions about Bekaert products.Were they unable to join in the conversation before?
oh.It was another thread from the site with some questions about Bekaert products.
I figured we have the expert here so they can chime in.
Jeff
I appreciate all the help thanks a lot guys! Now, if I were to use southern yellow pine as you recommend, what kind of a lifespan should I expect to get out of the posts? Living in western Canada the weather can be rough at times.Setting braces and posts are the heart of any good fence. First, choose good materials, by this use round posts not mill cut (ex, 4” x4”) lumber, this is since mill cut comes from a larger log and the heart wood will not receive treatment well, Southern Yellow pine (most common in the eastern US) will receive a treatment 2”-3” into the wood providing a longer life of the post. Second set them deep, when setting post for a 4’ tall fence you should be 36”- 42” should be in the ground for brace posts. Proper brace building will prevent the end posts from leaning, the cross member of the H Brace should be 2-2.5 times in length as the height of the fence, so a 4’ fence should have a 8’-10’ top rail, this gets the twitch wire to less than thirty degrees preventing the pull post from lifting or leaning over. If you are having issues with the lines posts leaning due to animal pressure, if they are wood they are not deep enough. If you are using T-Posts, I would recommend using a 4:1 ration of T-Post: Wood posts, the wood posts will give you added support that the T-Post will not. As far as installing in a straight line, set your end posts then string a line to set, if you are still having issues, you can use a string at close to the ground and approximately half way up the fence, when you set your posts setting them about ½” from the line, this will prevent you from pushing the line out an getting a bend in the fence. . Bekaert Brace Building Guide
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Traditional Field Fence is manufactured using low carbon wire, while the Bekaert high tensile fence is constructed using high tensile or a higher carbon wire. The advantage of using high tensile wire in the manufacturing process is that you can match/exceed the breaking strength of low carbon with a lighter material (12.5-gauge HT 200kpsi – breaking strength 1500# and 9-gauge low carbon – 1030# breaking strength). The term “stretching” fence comes from low carbon products, low carbon wire has an elongation factor of 11-13%, due to this during the installation process the installer needs to “stretch” the elongation out of the fence, if this is not done or pressure is applied to the fence a low carbon product will begin to sag and get loose. High tensile fences need to be “tensioned”, high tensile wire has a 1-3% elongation factor. With the lower elongation factor high tensile will not sag when pressure is applied. Another important difference in traditional field fence vs. Bekaert High Tensile is that we are looking at a Class 1 product and a Class 3. In salt spray testing, you will see 5% dark brown rust on a Class 1 product in about 150 hours, in a Class 3 product it takes about 500 hours, and in Bezinal coated products in approximately 900 hours. Installation process is the same for both products, installer will adjust the amount of tension during the initial install and will experience lower maintenance over the life of the fence.
A good pressure treated post should last 20 to 30 years depending on soil type. Treated posts installed in dry areas of a farm or ranch will last much longer than posts installed in wet swampy areas. Check the reputation of the post company before purchasing and see if they offer a guarantee.I appreciate all the help thanks a lot guys! Now, if I were to use southern yellow pine as you recommend, what kind of a lifespan should I expect to get out of the posts? Living in western Canada the weather can be rough at times.
Yes, many areas of the country are different in the types of posts used. Pressure treated yellow pine posts are very common. However, steel pipe has been used for fence posts for years in areas where oil and gas production is prevalent. Texas is a prime example of pipe being used as fence posts.Yellow pine for fence posts??Treated?
Hedge was good, too. I think I can still get some hedge apples if you want to try to grow some of them. Just plant them in a line where you want a fence. Takes a few years, but they last darned near forever.I have a fence question.
Why can't you get locust fence posts anymore. Those posts held up longer than the fencing that was attached to them.
Is that the fencing available from Premier?We use mobile electric netting at a 4-ft minimum. They also make 6-ft.
I appreciate the offer. There's a few places near here where I could get hedge apple seeds if I had room for the trees. Otherwise I would have planted them on the far side of my wooded ravine.Hedge was good, too. I think I can still get some hedge apples if you want to try to grow some of them. Just plant them in a line where you want a fence. Takes a few years, but they last darned near forever.
Good firewood, too.
A neighbor mentioned that she is using Premier fencing for her recently acquired sheep. Think I'll mosey over there some time this week, take a look at her set up.Yep, they both are! Haven't personally purchase the -6foot, but I think I will get a couple rolls.
In the fifty year test a college conducted creosoted posts had started to rot. The only post that was still good was hedge (osage orange).Hedge was good, too. I think I can still get some hedge apples if you want to try to grow some of them. Just plant them in a line where you want a fence. Takes a few years, but they last darned near forever.
Good firewood, too.
Thank You Admin@Bekaert_Fencing
I saw this question asked in another thread on this site; maybe you can answer it here? I assume higher quality materials and service.
Link: Why are 330' rolls of fencing so expensive?
Jeff