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Well, piffle. We've got a whole pack of the dang things. And they're NOT nice critters. I can't let the chickens or turkeys free range at ALL or they become dinner.

any suggestions? I know we could camp out in the deer blind and shoot them, but is there any other way?
 

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yes Get a great pyr. WE have a big pack near us and with the dog they dont come on the property any more. Just make sure the dog can run the area you want her to protect. Gp's are great with chickens. Well for teh most part. they do get board and flutter the birds up but its rare.
If you are not careful if you have young kids they yotes will start hunting the children. I know first hand they were hunting my kids. I would shoot at them and they would come back. I had to take my kids to the bus stop with a gun and had to get my kids off the bus with a gun. They can and will get very brave.
 

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You will not ever get rid of them no matter what you do. Even if you could, more would move in to replace them. Your only options are predator proof pens and/or a livestock guard dog.
Unfortunately, 'yotes are here to stay.

I can hear more than one pack howling when they get going.
 

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You won't get rid of them, but you can put the fear of man in them by shooting. If you are in an area where you can shoot. You might find a hunter who calls coyotes for sport, he can certainly thin them out. He uses a caller that imitates a rabbit squeal to call them close. Once they start on chickens, they will continue, till you get the ones responsible.
 

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There are LOADS of coydogs/coyotes around me. I live in a small pocket of farms around a lot of woods. Ever since I was a youngen' we..including our neibours, have all kept a "kill pile" centrally located (centrally away from all of our livestock) that we all use. The old timers here say that if they know where to go to get some food, they will. In the 40 yrs I've been here I can't think of a single animal taken by coydogs from any of our farms. May just be luck, but I can see them a few dozen feet from the barn, and I raise chickens,ducks,sheep,goats, and cows with the barn open all year long except on the coldest nights. Mike :shrug:
 

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We have been hearing the yokes around here for about a week now. They usely just hang around about 1 or 2 nights then move on, but not this time. Plenty of food here this summer unlike last year. Doesn't make much scene for them to be hanging around. My dogs keep them off the place pretty good, you can hear them call and it is errie. I shot the gun around the house to get the gun smoke in the air, I don't know if it does any good, but it makes me feel better.
 

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We're having trouble with coyotes, too. Last week they carried away a kitten, but our Aussie fought them for it. My hubby found him (the kitty) way out in the field, crying like crazy, but otherwise unhurt. Good dog!! Last month, the kids all slept out in the tent in the pasture, but apparently the coyotes came that night, too, and scared the beejeebers out of the kiddos. Thankfully, coyotes tend to be yellow-bellied, and the flashlights, yelling kids, and BB guns were enough to get rid of them (although not enough to wake mom up!?!).

I would love to get rid of them. They're nasty, noisy critters that have kept me up until 1 or 2 am most nights for almost 2 weeks now. I'm wondering - if I shoot them, will more just come, or will that get rid of the ones that love to sit in our back yard and howl?

btw - forgive my ignorance - what is a "kill pile"?
 

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Kill Pile A place where Dead animals are placed for Carrion Disposal. I think I would live trap them, Or Try and get the county to put A bounty on them as they can will and DO carry rabies at times. Try A yote hunt. get A bunch of folks to gether for A shoot at the totes and A bar-B -que afterwards.
 

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Old farmers around here claim if you kill some and hang them on your fence posts it works like a scare crow and the others will stay away. I haven't tried it but did kill one and left it in the edge of the woods behind the house and haven't seen another. Good luck with them. Sam
 

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There is a farmer here thats hangs them on his fence posts, When I first moved here 3 years ago I thought there was a sicko that lived here he would have up to 40 of them strung up along hwy 14,paula
 

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Thanks for the advice and the anecdotes. I was afraid that you'd confirm that I can't get rid of them...that others will replace 'em. well....guess the .22 is going to get a work out tonight.

I'll work on the fencing and put all critters inside electric fence, that should help.

I'd love to get a pyrenees, but can't afford a $500 puppy just now.
 

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Unfortunately a Gr Pyr puppy will not be much help for about 2 years. It takes that long for the puppy to mature and be large enough to enforce his rules. You could look on the "goat" forum, the pet forum, or google for a Great Pyr rescue board. I know there is one. I have 2 Grt Pyrs, 1 of them a rescue dog. He is doing fair and does keep the coyotes away. The older bigger dog will sometimes lay down and pretend to be a goat. I know he is thinking "here yote, yote". I have about $100 in both of mine.
 

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Well, piffle. We've got a whole pack of the dang things. And they're NOT nice critters. I can't let the chickens or turkeys free range at ALL or they become dinner.

any suggestions? I know we could camp out in the deer blind and shoot them, but is there any other way?
In the area I live, lots of coyotes. I lost a mother cat last week, and my neighbor lost 3 mother cats. Have had coyotes, forever here. The only time we got a break was about 5 years ago. Suddenly, no coyotes or foxes. The state people said what eliminated them in the area south of Fort Worth was Canine distemper, which was spread by coons. That lasted for a couple years and then they started moving in again. The only thing that will thin them out is the cyanide guns with bait. The only person who can use them legally is the Texas State Trapper. But when they used them in the city limits of Fort Worth, they killed about 150 in one area, the State tapper said that there was at least 6 coyotes for each one they killed. So somehow, you just have to live with them, because they are very smart and not going to go away.

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Ann we have a few rescue places. Start putting the word out. Our gp was a rescue. We got her for free. Start calling breeders and let them know your ploy and they will get the word out to everyone else to keep you in mind for a rescue. Thats how we got ours. Call the animal shelters also.. They willl keep you on a list.
 

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LGD's are the way to go. I have coyotes all around me, but they rarely venture onto my property anymore because of the dogs. I also have a donkey who has killed more than his share of coyotes. So far I have not lost any stock to coyotes or other predators. My dogs (great Pyrenees) were about 10 months old before they became effective. I also have English Mastiffs which are basically house dogs. When the G.P.'s were young I used them as backup, and still do when the howling sounds too close.

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We have tons of coyotes and it's not uncommon for us to hear a ring of packs all around us. A neighbor spotted a cougar while he was bow hunting less than 1/2 mile from our house and a man we know caught a black bear on tape when he set up a video camera on a game trail. Then there are all the stray dogs from our new neighbors who are "refugees" from St. Louis. They think they are in the country and can let their dogs and sometimes their children run free. I guess their feeling is that if houses aren't cheek by jowl, no one owns the land so it's free for their use. GRRR

Our Pyrs are worth their weight in gold. Not only do they protect the livestock, they protect the house and yard as well. Last fall a ring of thieves were burglarizing local homes, one right across the road from us although the house isn't visible from our house. When a deputy sheriff stopped to notify me and to interview me about what I might have seen, he took one look at our 3 Pyrs and told me, laughing all the while, that I had nothing to worry about from those thieves. Fortunately, they've been apprehended and are out on bail waiting trial. Two of the miscreants had previous records and were out on probation. They won't be back hopefully for a while. Yep, our dogs are worth their weight in gold.

We had to put down one of them in June due to bone cancer. We had already gotten a replacement when we realized Heidi was having some problems that we initially thought was arthritis. This new pup is now 7 1/2 months old and she's already guarding her goats very well. We are still having puppy issues but she's going to be a dynamite guardian when she matures.
 

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For those that live in Mo, call the Department of Conservation. If you are losing significant amounts of livestock they have predator damage control specialists that will come to your place and show you how to catch coyotes with snares. They will provide the snares and issue you a special permit to use them. The only cost is for the snares, and it was very reasonable.
 
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