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How do you know if your wheat berries are still good?

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#1 ·
Hi everyone! We bought a few buckets of wheat berries about 7 years ago from Wheat Montana. I opened a bucket and they smell fine. I read that they can turn rancid and these clearly have not. Wheat Montana's website states that they are generally good for 7 to 8 years or longer. How would you know if they weren't good other than by smell? I don't see any bugs, mold or anything else to be concerned about. What are the oldest wheat berries you've ever used? Thanks in advance!
 
#7 ·
Also, pour the bucket into another container and see if there is mold on the bottom, inside the bucket or liner. Sometimes grain looks ok, smells ok, but has mold because the moisture migrated out of the grain and ended up condensing on the bottom layer so there is just enough moisture to mold that part without molding the rest.
 
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Also, pour the bucket into another container and see if there is mold on the bottom, inside the bucket or liner. Sometimes grain looks ok, smells ok, but has mold because the moisture migrated out of the grain and ended up condensing on the bottom layer so there is just enough moisture to mold that part without molding the rest.
Oh my gosh, I never would have thought of this. Thank you! I will do that.
 
#10 ·
I have another question! Now that I have the bucket open, what is the storage life of the berries on the shelf? I know I can freeze what we aren't currently using, but I thought about putting a Gamma lid on the bucket for easy access. I am assuming about six months to a year at 75 degrees or so? How many buckets do you usually use in a year? Thanks again; I really appreciate it! :)
 
#11 ·
It really depends on how much you, personally will use. I'm the only one eating the wheat at my house and so I don't go thru it all that fast. Here, in summer particularly (summer is most of the yr) we have major problems with moths and weevils getting into everything. So I like to only keep open as much as I will use in 2-3 weeks. The rest is sealed and if possible, put in the freezer. Otherwise a bucket is long gone to insects before I finish it.
 
#12 ·
Not sure how long they will last at that temp Take half and leave it out then put the other half in the freezer. Take the freezer one out once an month and compare to the stuff you left out.

I leave our wheat berry’s in the 50lb bag they came in. The bags were just piled up on the floor of the basement. Though we go thorough 15 50lb bags of hard white wheat and about 50lbs of semolina wheat a year. Didn't make much sense trying to put all that in buckets as fast was we go through it.:happy:
 
#13 ·
The key to long term wheat and other grain storage is moisture content, and moisture content alone. Air does not matter. If dry, less than 14% moisture, and relatively cool, wheat and other grains will store basically forever.

People often get all carried away with worrying about O2, worry about darkness, bugs etc..

If the grain is the proper moisture, it WILL store indefinitely, and not have bug issues etc. EVER.

DRY DRY DRY!!!
 
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Dry and relatively cool is adequate, as my friend with the manly, masculine name points out. Dry and cold is great. All sealing, oxy absorbers, etc. do in my experience is create unnecessary complication and give more opportunity for things to go wrong
 
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DaleK, what is true in Canada is not necessarily true in south central Texas where it is HOT and HUMID and there is no cool, dry storage available without massive amounts of a/c input. Dry grain MUST be sealed with absorbers or it WILL have bugs as I can personally attest to after having to pour hundreds of pounds of grain to the animals because of weevils. Just put in a bucket and a lid is not adequate down here.
 
#20 ·
Interesting, the folks I know from Texas and Okla have basements. Regardless, dry is most important. Dry wheat, even if it is at 75 year round, with high humidity, ( we know all about high humidity in areas of Canada), will store for a very long time in a bucket.

If grain spoils, it is never a temperature issue. It is a moisture issue, sometimes combined with temperatures when over the recommended 14% moisture. If the wheat is over 14%, temperature DOES have a large impact.

Again, DRY DRY DRY!
 
#22 ·
Hard to put a basement in a mobile home. Most stick built homes are on slabs here and most of the older stick built are on piers. I don't know anybody around here with a basement. Maybe in OK or maybe in far north TX, but not down here. Basement significantly adds to the cost of a home when you don't have a frost line that you are required to go below.

I have no way to test the moisture content of grain, but would assume that grain purchased from someplace like Walton's should be dry enough. Nevertheless, it DOES get weevily if not purchased already sealed in mylar with O2 absorbers.
 
#23 ·
I have no way to test the moisture content of grain, but would assume that grain purchased from someplace like Walton's should be dry enough.
If you have a digital kitchen scale it should be sensitive enough to give you a pretty accurate gauge of the moisture content. Weigh a pound or 2 of grain before and after drying in a low temp oven for at least several hours (with the door propped open is best). Use the difference in weight to calculate the percentage.
 
#24 ·
We cant have a basement here in Louisiana..we hit water at 6 to 8 feet..lol. The wheat I just ot said was good for 30 years unopened and after opening then one year..regardless all flour wheat cornmeal etc goes to the grain freezer here after buckets are opened..between humidity and bugs i dont take a chance
 
#25 ·
Miss Betty, where are you located? In the PacNW, where I am, my wheat goes in buckets, no liners, O2 absorbers or dessicants, and it lasts for many, many years. It rains here, a lot, but the temps are usually cool when the humidity level is high. In the summer, when it's warm or hot, it's generally very low in humidity, as that is our drought season. It may make a bit of difference where you live as to how diligent you need to be in protecting from humidity. I also keep wheat berries on the shelf in a glass jar and have never had a problem with rancidity before using them up, even when it's been years.
 
#26 ·
If buying wheat berries in bags, I immediately put them in the chest freezer and leave for 2 weeks. That should kill anything that could be in there. We then pour into buckets and seal. That's it. It's both hot and humid here, and I've never had a problem. Still eating on Y2K wheat also...LOL