I have a question on RAM behaviour-- especially since my BB ram is now a singleton( the wether is still out running with the deer) "IRA" is just hitting one year of age-- he learned at 6 months that if something frightens him and I am nearby, he can 'hide' by me and I would handle the situation.. He started 'pushing' the wether some time ago, and being rather fond of animal behaviour studies, I watched their interaction, and made note of what was happening. Now,he is placing his head against me, and pushing, so I have taken to making a fist, and pushing him back on his horn plate area, enough to knock him off balance and cause him to step back. A few times now, when he has lifted his front feet off the ground, I have been quick enough to get a hand on his horn plate area and push him down and back. A couple times of this, and he quits his advances, and remains quiet.. I can continue with what I want to do in his area. From all you long term sheep people-- is this going to work? I am feeling I need to just maintain my dominance, the same way I need to with my chesapeake bay retriever. That as long as I keep "winning" the quiet pushes, that I will be in control. If the ram gets real aggressive, he will have a rather stubborn Basenji to deal with-- as NO ONE is permitted to act aggressively when she is around!!! Terry Thankfull I don't have a woolly sheep-- mine sheds water nicely!!!