Herbs #3 Post Recipe tests/ how-to comments here (Chapter 6)

Discussion in 'Testers' started by Carla Emery, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. Carla Emery

    Carla Emery In Remembrance

    Sep 24, 2002
    From Cindy Brooks:

    HI again,

    Poultry Seasoning: P-16 I like a little more sage. These mixtures are fun and quick to put together.

    Homemade Pumpking Pie Spice: P-16 This smells so good.

    Herb-Salt Mix: P-16: MMMmmm smells so good.
  2. Carla Emery

    Carla Emery In Remembrance

    Sep 24, 2002
    Cindy Brooks has trouble getting on HT, so she e-mailed me the following test results:

    The sloppy Joe seasoning, on page 17 is good. I'd give it a 4 for prep; 4 for taste and 5 for clean up, nothing out of the ordinary, 4 overall. Next time and Gary requested a next time, I'll add a little more celery seed and some cayenne.

    Lemoony Fruit Salad Dressing-page 10: prep 5, taste 5, clean up 5 overall 5, I really like this, I used lemon juice. lemon balm and I did add a pinch of salt. Excellent on a fruit salad of orange pineapple and banana. refreshing.

    Candied Leaves/flowers-page 6. Fun and a delicious treat. Actually violets don't have much flavor, but the doing of this makes it delicious. I let them dry naturally, did well.

    Deodorant ppage 86: I was warned a few years back not to use just baking soda very often because it will deplete Vitamin A. Once in a while is o.k.

    Buttrly Atrracting Plants p. 86: I plant lots and lots of zinnias, how lovely to watch the butterflies enjoying these beautiful flowers.

    I'll have more later, gotta can v-8 type juice and other stuff.

    God bless, Cindy

  3. connie in nm

    connie in nm Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2002
    I finally finished reading/editing the copy of the Herbs and Flavorings chapter that Carla sent me many moons ago......

    These comments all apply to the 10 th Edition

    p. 8 under "Flowers" It says not to smash the stems when cutting. But it probably should be added that when you cut flowers or shrubs with woody stems you DO want to smash the stems with a hammer or such so they can absorb water.

    p. 10 Herbs that are natural pesticides-
    You might want to any any info that you have on indoor pests such as ants, roaches and fruit flies. Here is a way to catch fruit flies Take a small shallow glass jar. Fill with apple cider vinegar (1/2 " deep). Cover with plastic wrap and secure with a rubber band. Punch holes in top of plastic wrap with a toothpick. Fruit flies are attracted to this, go in and drown.

    p. 18 Aloe Vera - these directions are unclear ie break off a leaf and use and it will refill for later use?......

    p. 26 Cotton is grown in other areas of the deep south besides Alabama and is widely grown in Texas and probably some here in NM

    p. 26 Taco Beef- I would definiately add chili powder to this recipe. Otherwise, it would be too bland.

    p.31 You state in first paragraph in first column that garlic blooms are pink. Mine are white. Must vary by variety.

    p. 48 Under Prickly Pear
    Also grows wild in NM

    P. 48 Under Prickly Pear
    Nopalitos are sold in the produce section fo grocery stores here. In large cities, I'm sure you can get them in ethnic

    p. 49 Under purslane
    I use purslane as a bedding plant in container pots. Blooms, and it is drought resisitant.

    P. 53 Under Beads//// Shaping the beads
    Speaks of the "all -petals one [dough]" Which recipe is this referring to?

    p. 53 Rosemary- You write of the 'delicate blue flowers that bloom on branch tips in early spring". I have a HUGE 3' X 3' rosemary in my backyard that has never bloomed. Are there male and female plants?

    P. 55 under Sage Tea
    For chest congestion boil sage leaves and make a tent over the pan by placing a towel over your head. Inhale steam.

    p. 57 Under Stevia Is the new Splenda sweetener that is out made from Stevia?

    p. 58 Tapioca - Granular preparation of cassava starch used esp. in puddings and as a thickening in liquid foods.
    Cassava- any of several plants [genus mankhot] of the spurge family grown in the tropics for their fleshy edible rootstocks which yield a nutritious starch.

    p.66 Sun Tea - although I still do it because it is very hot and dry here and it doesn't take long.......this is controversial and I have read some articles suggesting you might get food poisioning from this because water does not get hot enough.

    p.66 Root beer extract - I have never seen this in the stores around here.......however, you can order it from the Lehman's catalog.

    p. 67 Bottle caps and capping equipment available from the Lehman's catalog.

    p. 70 Eye treatment - Recently when I had an eye infection and went to the drugstore and tried to find boric acid liquid. They did not have it and could not order it (unavailable). I ended up reading all the eye drops labels till I found one whose major ingredient was boric acid and purchased that.

    p. 73 Lip Gloss - I would avoid petroleum jelly/ petroleum products and stick with beeswax, etc.

    p. 75 - Toothpaste
    For healthy gums and clean teeth Mix hydrogen peroxide with baking soda to form a paste and brush with this. Good for bleeding gums, too. Follow with salt water rinse if gums are in bad shape.

    I really enjoyed reading this chapter and have learned much from this chapter and the grains chapter. Only one more chapter to read and edit.

    Connie in NM (New Mexico) Connie Lewis
  4. Hank - Narita

    Hank - Narita Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2002
    Used thyme on pork chops and squash; very good. Plants were topled over by wind/rain. Replanted basil and dill; doing great. Fennel coming along great; helpful bugs all over the heads.
  5. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Yes--see the first post on page one of this thread.

    Fearless Leader Herbs
  6. Mullers Lane Farm

    Mullers Lane Farm Well-Known Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    NW IL
    Is there a list of recipes and such that still need to be tested in this category??
  7. Carla Emery

    Carla Emery In Remembrance

    Sep 24, 2002
    Thank you, everybody! This 10th edition is going to have the best Herbs section in the world, thanks to all your hard work! :D
  8. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Ninth Edition Recipe List

    Those Underlined indicate that recipe has been tested.

    Candied leaves/flowers
    Dried herbs
    Freezing herbs
    Dye plants
    Dying fabric w/herbs
    Saving seeds

    Citrus Extract
    Clover Rose Honey
    Ground herbs and spices
    Hand lotion
    Jelly-Modern and Old-time

    Oil- sun-extracted
    Oil-citrus oil
    Oil-oil into oil

    - Linseed poultice
    Sachets/ Herb Pillows
    -Headache pillow
    -ease melancholy
    -herb sachet

    -chickweed ointment-balm of gilead
    Spirit for seasoning soups
    Sun Tea
    Health Tea
    Herbed Lemonade

    Vinegar, herb flavored
    -Basil Vinegar
    -Caraway, cardamom, celery seed or mustard vinegar
    -Garlic vinegar
    -Mint vinegar
    -Plain onion, garlic or celery leaf vinegar
    -multi-spiced vinegar

    Hot, Hot vinegar
    Packaged seasoning mixtures
    Spice bag
    Salty Herb Salt
    Low-salt Herbed Salt
    Herb salt mix for hamburgers
    Low salt seasoning salt
    Sesame Salt
    Salt/Pepper mix
    Herb bags to season soups and stews
    Bouquet Garni
    Fines Herbes
    Herbs and Pepper
    Poultry seasoning
    Best No-salt seasoning
    Dessert spice blend

    Homemade pumpkin Pie Spice
    Pickling Spice 1
    Pickling Spice 2
    Curry Mix 1
    Curry Mix 2
    Favorite Curry Mix
    Spiced Lemonade
    Mulled Red Wine
    Mulled Cranberry Cider
    Spiced Cider
    Cider Punch for a crowd
    Mulled Grape Juice
    Hot Spiced Tea for a crowd
    Worcestershire Sauce
    Ketjap Manis

    Chinese 5 spice blend
    Bee Balm Fancy Tea

    Party Balm-mintadde

    Borage Tea
    Candied Borage Flowers
    Pickling Capers
    Caraway stuffed celery

    Chamomile tea
    Chervil Vinegar
    Herb Soup
    Sour Cream and Herb dressing

    Coarsely crushed cinnamon
    Cinnamon sugar
    Alaska Honey
    Clover Bloom Vinegar

    Cilantro Chicken Tomato Soup
    Dill Vinegar
    Dill Soup

    Eucalyptus Cold Remedy
    Fennel Seed Tea
    Bengali Crackers

    Geranium Potpourri
    Geranium-Rose potpourri
    Rose geranium cake
    Rose Geranium jelly

    Ginger Sugar
    Ginger Ale
    Another Ginger Ale
    Unfermented ginger ale
    Mint Gingerade
    Ginger spiced Apple
    Ginger Grape
    Ginger Grape, Grapefruit
    Ginger Mint Lemon
    Ginger Punch

    Horehound tea
    Horehound Candy

    No-tears Horseradish
    Simplest horseradish spread
    Sour cream horseradish
    Fancy Sour cream horseradish
    Horseradish sandwich filling
    Horseradish sauce
    Horseradish milk sauce

    Lavender bookmarks

    Lavender sachet powder
    Lavender water

    Basic Peppermint Tea
    Mint Syrup
    Mint Jelly
    Iced Mint Tea
    Minted green peas or potatoes
    Pineapple mint drink
    Mint vinegar sauce
    Mint jelly sauce
    Baked pears with mint
    Fruit salad dressing
    Ruth’s minty tabouli

    Mustard Plaster
    Homegrown mustard
    Basic wet mustard
    Sweet-hot mustard
    Spiced mustard
    Dijon mustard

    Pickled Nasturtium Seeds
    Nettle Rennet
    Cream of Nettle soup

    Parsley Ice Cubes
    Parsley Butter
    Parsley Dill Potato Salad
    Quick Parsley Flavor
    Parsley Salad Dressing
    Parsley Tabouli

    Poke Salet Dumplings

    Rose Hip Tea
    Doris' hip mix tea
    Rose pear granita
    Rose hip syrup
    Rose hip Jam
    Rose hip extract
    Ann Marie's Extract
    Rose hip jelly

    All-rose potpourri
    A damp potpourri
    Attar of roses
    Rose extract
    Rose water
    Rose brandy
    Rose vinegar
    Rose petal honey
    Rose petal jam
    Sam's rose petal jelly
    Rose petal bread
    Petal-scented tea
    Rose and rhubarb syrup
    Crystallized rose petals

    Rosebud ice cubes
    Pure petals bead dough
    Petals/salt bead dough
    Petals/flour bead dough
    Herbal hamburger
    Roast potatoes with rosemary
    Rosemary tea/hair rinse

    Sage Bread
    Sage Tea

    Sassafras beef gumbo
    From scratch old-time sassafras gumbo

    Shaker Closet Bag

    Tarragon Eggs
    Tarragon vinegar

    Old-time vanilla extract
    Easy vanilla extract
    Nonalcoholic vanilla extract

    Hot fudge sauce
    Basic Mocha
    Spiced Mocha
    Cocoa Insecticide

    Roasted grain coffee
    Acorn coffee
    Dandelion root coffee
    Chicory coffee

    Making green tea
    Making Black tea
    East Indian Tea
    Homemade spiced orange tea

    Egg white mask
    Oatmeal mask
    Honey/Lemon mask
    Brewer's Yeast mask
    Instant Skin Cleanser
    Yogurt cleanser
    Cleansing Cream
    Fruit Cleanser
    Herbal Steaming Facial
    Skin freshener
    Peaches and cream moisturizer

    Treatment for large pores
    For oily skin
    Homemade lip gloss or rouge
    Herbal bath salts
    Healthier hair
    Vinegar hair rinse
    Herbal Hair rinse
    Balsam Hair rinse
    Chamomile shampoo
    Homemade toothpaste
    Breath freshener

    What follows is the list of recipes that only those with pages from the upcoming tenth edition can test. Those of you with this edition need to consider these recipes.


    Pressed Flowers p.9
    Mint Mix Potpourri p.12
    Flower Potpourri p. 12
    Spicy Rose Potpourri p.12
    Christmas Potpourri p.13
    Basic Potpourri p.13
    Mystery Vinegar p.14
    Salad Vinegar p.14
    Taco Seasoning p.15
    Pickling Spice #3 p. 16
    Sloppy Joe Sauce p. 16
    Spaghetti Sauce p.16
    Spaghettie Seasoning
    Barbecue Sauce p. 17

    Aloe Hair Rinse p. 20
    Raspberry Star Anise Tea p.21
    Arrowroot Thickening p.21
    Basil Butter p.22
    Basil Cream Sauce p.22
    Tomato Basil Bread p.22
    Basil Salad Dressing p.22
    Calendula Salve p. 24
    Cardamom Tea p. 24
    Cardamom Coffee p.24
    Chamomile Hair Rinse p. 25
    Cattail Pillow p. 25
    Chive blossom vinegar p. 26
    Taco Beef p. 29
    Dandelion Buds p. 30
    --- dandelion was in the 9th edition under Garden Vegetables
    Dill Tea p.31
    Yogurt-Dill Smoothie p.31
    Insect Worm Repellent p.32
    [Eucalyptus Steam Remedy= Cold Remedy]

    Bengali Eggplant p. 32
    Ginger Tea Mix p. 34
    Ginger Tea p.34
    Hop Tea p.38
    Horehound Saltwater Taffy p.38
    Horseradish Sauce p.39
    Balmy Fruit Salad p.42
    Licorice Anise Root Beer p.42
    Herby White Sauce p.43
    Mint Shake p.45
    Lime Mintade p.45
    Minty Fruit p. 45
    Dried or Frozen Parsley p.48
    Parsley Sauce p.49

    Poppyseed Salad Dressing p. 50
    Tuna Juice p.51
    Prickly Pear Jelly p.51
    Frozen Prickley Pear Puree p.51
    Cactus Candy p.51
    Nopalitos p. 51
    Basic Rose Hip Juice p. 53
    Dried Rose Hips p.53
    Frozen Rose Hips p.53
    Old Tyme Rose Junket p.55
    Crystallized Rose Petals p.55
    Classic Saffron Rice p.56
    Root Beer p.58
    Classic Root Beer p.58

    Sesame Seed Bread Crust p.59
    Tahini p.59
    Tahini-Yogurt Salad Dressing p.59
    Stevia Extract p.60

    Aftershave Lotion p.64
    Basic Cocoa Bean Processing p.65
    Making Cocoa Powder p.65

    Kvass p.71
    Colonial Lemon Ginger Molasses Fizzy p. 71
    Cream Soda p.71
    Citrus Soda p.71
    Fruit Juice Soda p.71
    Flower Blossom Bubbly p.71
    Sunday School Picnic root Beer p.71
    Poultice for Skin Infection p.72
    Treatment for Cuts and Scratches p.72
    Chapped Hands p.72
    For Itching Hives p.72
    Remedy for Slivers p.72
    Acne Lotion p.72
    Cough Remedy p.72
    Stuffy Nose p.72
    For Asthma...p.72
    Fever p.72
    For a cold p.72
    For Tired Eyes p.72
    Eye Treatment p.72
    Earache p.72
    Nosebleed p.72
    Gargle p.73
    Remedy for Motion Sickness p.73

    Insomnia p.73
    Diarrhea p.73
    For Anxiety p.73
    Lemon Honey p.73
    Gentle Milk-Lassie p.73
    Hot Toddy p.73
    Barley Water p.73
    "Tea" for Sick Child p.73
    Jam Tea p.73
    Custard p.73
    Flannel Cakes p.73
    Onion-Honey Milk p.73
    Lollipop Tongue Depressors p.73

    To Get Rid of Skunk Smell p.73
    Accident on Rug p.73
    Fresh Paint Removal p.73
    Garlic Wormer p. 73
    Coal Wormer p.74
    Mosquito Repellent p.74
    Pennyroyal Repellent for poultry p.74
    Tobacco Juice Insect Repellent p.74
    Salve to keep off bugs p.74

    Drive off Yellowjackets p.74
    Silverfish p.74
    Remedy for pet fleas p.74
    Louse Control p.74
    Roach Killer 1 p.75
    Roach Killer 2 p.75
    Repel Chiggers p.75
    Reduce Goat Flies p.75
    Scabies Remedy p.75
    Bug in your Ear? p.75
    Moth Control p.75

    Quick Paste p.75
    Library Paste p.75
    Homemade Modelling Clay p.75
    Clay for Jewellry and Toys p. 75

    Homemade Silly Putty p.76
    Face Paint p.76
    Rainy Day Entertainment p. 76
    Growing Crystals p.76
    Deodorant p.76
    Baby oil p.76
    Eye Shadow/Blush p. 76
    Shaving Aids p.76

    Herbal Milk Masks p.77
    Janina's Deep Pore Cleansing Treatment p.77
    Cucumber Cold Cream p.77
    Complexion Cream p.77
    Bubble Bath p. 77
    Vinegar Bath p.77
  9. caroline00

    caroline00 Well-Known Member

    Nov 10, 2002
    we found some spearmint growing in our woods

    Harvesting page 381
    When I found the mint, I came to get the book to see when and how to harvest. Instructions are very clear. 5

    I washed, dried and put on a cookie sheet until frozen (about 10 minutes) then put them all in a ziplock bag. I have not used any of the frozen mint yet rated 5

    Basic Peppermint tea rated 5
    ours was very strong. We ended up diluting it quite a bit but loved it.

    Mint syrup rated 5
    this was so easy to do and very easy to use. I find I like mixing it into honey for biscuits in addition to adding it to apple juice and iced tea

    Iced Mint tea rated5
    we also enjoyed this one a lot. Maybe its the season?

    MInted green peas or potatoes rated 5
    we preferred the potatoes but would consider serving minted peas for a side dish for company if I felt the meal needed interest

    Pineapple mint drink
    rated 4
    I liked it. My family would prefer that the green specks not be in the pineapple juice. next time, I will use the mint syrup with the pineapple juice. That will probobly be to sweet though.

    Mint jelly sauce rated 5
    we used cranberry sauce though. We liked it alot

    Baked pears with mint rated 5
    this is easy to do and my family really liked it. As soon as our pears come ripe, I will do more of this.

    Parsley butter page 384
    rated 5
    we found that we liked this with boiled potatoes

    Parsley dill potato salad page 384 rated 5
    I fixed this when I didnt have dill pickles for the potato salad. we did like it. with the left overs, I added peas to it and it was better

    Hot fudge sauce page 395 rated 5. WE added sugar.
    we did this for our 7 year olds birthday this year he loved it.

    wild foods
    We had a wild foods walk done on our property this year. Fortunately, I had read your wild foods section on page 400 and reread it before disposing of our hemlock :)
    we bagged it and put it in our paid trash (we can buy bags and fill them and drop them off at a pick up site) we did not burn it!

    we bought elderberry plants and couldnt find how to plant them from your book!

    page 449
    Banana popsicles rated 4
    the children liked them but the honey was sticky and a mess for them to eat. I have also done it with a carob sauce and had the same problem though

    Asparagus page 265
    none of ours made it to the kitchen. It seems to be a raw garden munchie at out house

    Sweet potato slips page 301
    growing slips rated 4
    planting slips rated 5
    planting cuttings rated 5
    planting and growing outdoors. In the process
    we put our sweet potatoes in water wth the top half out. It took several months for green tops to grow. We then sp[lit them off trying to get the roots too. On the ones that were plants only, no roots, we put the plants in a cup of water and rooted them. We are now at the planting stage. you do need the plant with the root before you plant. This is a new project for us, we have never grown sweet potatoes before.

    this is a good farmers market item for early May in our area. I only know of one person selling sweet potato slips ready to plant and it is more than an hour away from us.
  10. Kelle in MT

    Kelle in MT Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2002
    Here is a link to recipes cooking with Stevia;
  11. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Poisonous Plants
    Page 78, 10th Edition

    More info to follow re: those I believe can be removed from this list. Please note the same plants were mentioned under several names and I have placed them together for ease in identifying for you/your readers. If I have no comments otherwise, I agree with your designation of poisonous.

    Do you want to keep ornamental/houseplants on the list?

    Please note that I will post these as follows:

    Your Title for Herb: Also Known As (AKA) Names, Followed by Latin/scientific Name;
    Comments from my references: either Foster and Duke’s “Eastern/Central Medicinal Plants” (F/D) published in the Peterson Field Guide series or “A Modern Herbal” by Grieves.

    Aconite: add monkshood from list here, Aconitum napellus

    American False Hellebore (spelling corrected): Veratrum viride, include Christmas Rose, AKA “Black Hellebore” Helleborus niger, here from later in your list

    Anemone: Anemone nemorosa has long ago medicinal use, with no reference to poison in Grieves. Windflower, Anemonella thalictroides is noted as only possibly toxic in F/D book.

    Angel’s Trumpet: include names Datura and JimsonWeed here-same plant, Datura stramonium, may be white or violet/blue flowered.

    Arrowgrass: What else does this go by…I can’t find info.


    Baneberry: Actaea rubra (red type) Actaea pachypoda (white type)

    Black Locust: Robinia pseudo-acacia My info says all parts toxic. Wouldn’t recommend flowers. F/D also says honey from these locusts is suspect. I will say that this locust yields my favorite honey-very clear and bright tasting. This plant makes great fence posts and I just cut two small trees down to make a headboard for my niece. Very hard wood.

    Bleeding Heart:

    Bloodroot: Sanguinaria Canadensis

    Bouncing Bet: AKA Soapwort, Saponaria officinalis. Large doses may cause poisoning because of saponin content per F/D. I might consider removing this from the list.

    Butterflyweed: Asclepias tuberosa. See my prior report on this on-line-I would recommend removing this from the list.

    Castor Oil Plant: Ricinus communis

    Celandine Poppy (spelling correction): Chelidonium majus

    Chokecherry: Prunus Virginia

    Cockle (Corn-cockle): Agrostemma githago, seeds toxic per F/D

    Columbine: Aquilegia Canadensis. My info says “caution, potentially poisonous” per F/D
    May warrant removal from list.


    Daphne: What else do you know about this plant? I have no record of it.

    Daylily: Hemerocallis fulva, roots and young shoots potentially toxic

    Deadly Nightshade:
    1. Common Nightshade: Solanum nigrum
    2. please move European Bittersweet, Solanum dulcamara to this heading. Both contain steroids, can be toxic.
    3. Horse-nettle: Solanum carolinense

    Death Camas: need more info re: this plant

    Desert Rose: Any more identifying info for this plant?


    Digitalis purpurea


    Garland Flower: Any more info?

    Hemlock: see prior info I posted re: this plant and others named hemlock that are benign.

    Horsechestnut: Aesculus hippocastanum, outer husks particularly poisonous

    [Horse-nettle: a kind of nightshade-please add to nightshade heading]

    Horsetail: Field horsetail: Equisetum arvense, toxic to livestock and may affect thiamine metabolism in humans per F/D

    Jack in the Pulpit: Arisaema triphyllum, rates a caution only as intensely irritating per F/D, may warrant removal from list.

    Jessamine: Gelsemium sempervirens, deadly poison, can also cause dermatitis per F/D

    Larkspur: Delphinium consolida

    Larsonia: need more info here.

    Laurel: Sheep laurel: Kalmia angustifolia Mountain laurel: Kalmia latifolia, both highly toxic per F/D

    Leafy Spurge: Euphorbia esula

    Lily of the Valley: Convallaria majalis: I cannot find any poisonous warnings-it is a valuable heart treatment for herbalists. F/D say it may cause skin irritation and potentially toxic. May warrant removal from this list.

    Lobelia: Lobelia inflata, has strong effects and is a valuable relaxant. Used medicinally. May warrant removal from this list.

    Wild Lupine: Lupinous perennis, seeds are poisonous

    Marsh-Marigold: AKA Cowslip, Clatha palustris “all parts may irritate/blister skin” F/D, not considered poisonous/toxic that I can find. May warrant removal from this list.

    Marvel of Peru: AKA Heart Leaved 4 O’Clock, Miribilis nyctaginea

    Matrimony Vine: More info?

    Mayapple: AKA American Mandrake, Podophyllum peltatum

    Meadow Saffron: AKA Naked Ladies, Colchicum autumnale

    Mistletoe: Phoradendron serotinum, may cause dermatitis, considered poisonous per F/D

    Morning Glory:

    Oleander: AKA Periwinkle, Vinca Major, I can find no supporting evidence for this to be listed here.

    Pennyroyal: Hedeoma pulegiodes. Do not ingest essential oil. Avoid during pregnancy, otherwise ok.


    Poison Ivy: Toxicodendron radicans

    Poison Oak: I do not know this plant—some references report it as being the same plant I know as poison ivy.

    Pokeweed: Phytolacca Americana In 9th edition you included the common use of these early greens as salad. It may cause dermatitis per F/D which I have never seen/experienced. May warrant removal from the list.


    Rhododendron: Rhododendron maximum, leaves toxic, avoid use. Deer will eat this over winter when they are very hungry.

    Rhubarb: There are many rhubarbs. If you mean Garden Rhubarb AKA English Rhubarb(and I think you do): Rheum rhaponticum

    Rosary Pea: need more info onthis plant.

    St. Johnswort: Hypericum perforatum. I do not believe this eeds to remain on the list, see prior notes placed on-line.

    Skunk Cabbage: Symplocarpus foetidus. Roots toxic per F/D

    Snowdrops:more info please

    Solomon’s Seal: Polygonatum biflorum. Can find no warnings re: this plant in any info I have about it. May warrant removal from list.

    Star of Bethlehem: Which one do you mean?
    1. Ornithogalum umbellatum is not poison.
    2. Ornithogalum divaricatum AKA California Soaproot” might be considered poison due to the saponins that can cause vomiting per Grieves. I’m not sure this belongs on this page.

    Tobacco: This is a bit confusing since you discuss cultivation, etc. earlier in the book. Incongruent, yes?


    Yew: AKA American Yew, Taxus canadensis

  12. Kelle in MT

    Kelle in MT Well-Known Member

    May 10, 2002
    Chokecherry? which part(leaf, stem?), because we use the berries all the time for jelly and syrup.
    Rhubarb- the leaf and root are the poisonous parts.
    It may be a good idea to list which parts are poisonous. Thanks for all the information, it's a handy list to have posted with your poison control #.
  13. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Thats the problem with common names Kelle....I bet you are talking about a different species alltogether, but with the same common names. There is a lot of that going on. Use a tree ID book and be certain.
  14. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    > Poison Oak: I do not know this plant—some references report
    > it as being the same plant I know as poison ivy.

    They are different. I grew up in MA with poison ivy, which
    has the 3 reddish pointed leaves. Poison oak leaves look more
    like oak leaves and are redder (less green), and seem to grow
    taller and more isolated, unlike the low-flowing rivers of
    poison ivy. I've only seen poison oak in CA but I believe it's
    around in OR too; never saw it in MA.

    There's also poison sumac but never seen that.
  15. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    > Pennyroyal: Hedeoma pulegiodes. Do not ingest essential oil.
    > Avoid during pregnancy, otherwise ok.

    Recently I've been reading on this and my sources
    are pretty vehement not to injest this at all. I seem to
    remember using it in tea when I was a teenager and
    seem to have survived...
  16. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Lisa, could you please find the botanical name for me for poison oak?

    I have heard many people say it is different, but as I said, my references all say it is the same plant. Personally I have seen tall poison ivy and some that is larger leaved and some that enjoyed staying on the ground and some that liked climbing trees. Many habits.

  17. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    Toxicodendron radicans - eastern poison ivy
    Toxicodendron rydbergii - western poison ivy
    Toxicodendron toxicanium - eastern poison oak
    Toxicodendron diversilobum - pacific poison oak
    Toxicodendron vernix - poison sumac

    Quoting from one of the sites I found:

    Poison Oak - In the West, this plant may grow as a vine but usually is a shrub. In the East, it grows as a shrub. Hair grows on its fruit, trunk and leaves, which have three leaflets.

    Poison Ivy - In the East, Midwest and South, it grows as a vine. In the far Northern and Western United States, Canada and around the Great Lakes, it grows as a shrub. Each leaf has three leaflets.

    Poison Sumac - Grows in standing water in peat bogs in the Northeast and Midwest and in swampy areas in parts of the Southeast. Each leaf has seven to 13 leaflets.

    See leaf pics at this site:

    More than you wanted to know, probably :)
  18. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    (This is an interesting subject).

    I had heard lily of the valley was highly toxic so I did a web
    search. Reports varied but this is the most balanced opinion.

    "Lily-of-the-valley (Convallaria majalis) has a traditionally bad record and is considered as highly toxic by many textbooks. It contains cardiac glycosides in all parts of the plant. The main signs reported after the ingestion of several leaves are vomiting and diarrhea, as well as a slow or irregular pulse. Such poisonings occur mainly when the leaves are confused with crow garlic and consumed as a salad." ... "In Switzerland, no severe poisoning has been reported during 30 years" ... "In the United States, among 2639 exposures to any part of this plant, there were no fatalities and only 3 patients suffered major effects"

    I don't know what the best way to distinguish between seriously toxic and don't-eat-this. I'd guess Lily of the valley
    falls in the later category (as does Pennyroyal).
  19. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2003
    From what I gather, it looks like Black Locust is toxic but
    Honey Locust is okay.

    I don't have the 10th ed. but I noticed a couple of possible
    gaps, this may not be relevant depending on how toxic plants
    are listed:
    - Kentucky Coffeetree, raw beans are toxic. One says roasting the beans destroys some of the toxins.
    - Mexican Buckeye (Ungnadia speciosa) "the seed is highly poisonous and all parts of the tree are somewhat toxic."
    - Golden chain tree
    - Patchouli
  20. DW

    DW plains of Colorado Supporter

    May 10, 2002
    plains of Colorado
    p. 363 ketjap manis #5 I needed this for another recipe and made it. I added ginger & pepper...it was more like a sweet/sour sauce. Dorothy