Gurney's is no longer owned by the Gurney family and no longer frows it's own seeds and stock. They were bought out by a large conglomerate, as was Henry Fields, and several other national companies 3-4 years ago and in my op[inion the seed quality and customer service went into the pits. I have not bought from any of those companies for several years. They did have excellent trees as they were grown in Yankton, SD and were good for harsh climate. No longer true. They contract out their trees and most everything else. May be good, may be not. I'll stick with smaller, family controlled companies. Glad you had good luck with them.