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Hazards of HTML Haste

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My little girl and I were nearly killed yesterday by a driver making haste - I suspect to church. This bugs me, being a church-goer myself.

What also bugs me is how many church and charity websites I run into that virtually kill-off their ability to encourage visits, donations and other objectives by web sites that are rushed into production without taking time to test.

Some of the problems I've seen along these lines include:
  • embarrassing typos and misspellings
  • lack of cross-browser support
  • confusing &/or inconsistent navigation
  • broken links and images
That said, how many here design web pages - and of that group - how many are even aware that there are at least two distinctly different types of testing that should be performed before fielding a web site?

I've cited some more examples on a related post over on my blog, but will have as much fun discussing it here as there ...
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sammyd said:
You mean not everyone has a t1 hooked up to their house?
Not everyone runs 1280x1024 resolution?
Someone actually uses something other than IE?

Surely you can't be serious...... must watch my flash intro, I spent a whole day on it....LOL

And why should I resize those jpegs? They load really fast on my computer.
I totally 100% agree with your post. :)
MeanDean said:
First, I've found from first-hand experience that teenage'd kids do not make for good webmasters. Though technically adept, they lack the understanding of broader concepts such as 'conversion goals' ... often and only volunteering time to implement cool stuff they're not allowed to implement on their noisily ineffective, 'pimped-up' MySpace pages.

Second - if you can manage Microsoft Word, or even this BBS, then you can manage leveraging an online presence for a church on the cheap using a free tool such as

In fact, it is the advent of such free software services that have lead to a bunch of embarrisingly hasty posts that come back to haunt an online ministry.
:Bawling: I beg to differ!!! A couple of years ago, I started doing the church website for our church back in Kentucky. I still do it, and we now live in seattle. Ill send you the link to the website, via pm. (please don't share reasons) and see what you think.
snv1492 said:
As other people said, I think the vast majority of churches do not hire professionals to do their sites. They "hire" a parishioner, who is probably a volunteer, and who's only experience with web design is dragging and dropping things into their free copy of FrontPage Express. They have probably never even seen the code they created, and they don't want to.

That being said, there are some pretty nice standards compliant church sites out there.

There is no reason they can not have a professional website if they hire a professional. Most simply choose not to. There is nothing wrong with having a parishioner volunteer to do the site, but if that parishioner doesn't happen to be a professional web developer, unless god intervenes, he or she will not do professional quality work, and it would be unrealistic to expect otherwise.

The same thing happened across the board though. Ever since WYSIWYG editors took off, the bulk of web design went from the hands of professionals to the hands of amateurs. Even a lot of business sites are horrible because the boss made his secretary or his 12 year old nephew make their company website.

Of course you can't drag and drop together a database application, but most of these types of sites don't require anything that sophisticated, so they are fine with leaving it the mess that it is. Even though they probably would benefit from some sort of CMS, they have no concept of automation and dynamic systems. They don't even have enough knowledge yet to know what they don't know.

What's the security issue in visiting it? Aren't websites are supposed to be visited.
Long story... I can send the link via pm to any one who wants it, just don't post it any where on the forum-- for my sake and a for a former teacher's sake--(we got beat up...while on a class trip when I lived in Kentucky...)
These are certian rules that I MUST please don't be immature over this.
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