My Great Grandmother used to tell me that the only thing good about''the good old days'' was that they were in the past. She grew up in Mississippi in the 1890s, & as she grew older she was delighted by any advancements that made her life easier. While I find many of the ideals of homesteading admirable, I have no desire to do without modern convienencies. I would have to think that our goal should be to find ways to use modern things,such as this computer that I'm talking to you on, to make our lives better. I've worked hard all my life to give my wife & kids something better, every year,every day. Being more self sufficient doesn't have to mean doing without things. I think that it means that we should use whatever we have access to,new or old, to make our lives Better.