Grinding Grain

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  1. perennial

    perennial Well-Known Member

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    I have a question about grinding my own corn meal or corn flour. Do I use a popcorn kernal or is there some other type of corn grain to grind.

    I recently bought a hand crank grain mill and am shocked at how good things taste with freshly milled flour! I'm still working on the percentage of wheat flour to use for my bread recipe. I was using 2 cups of wheat and 41/2 cups of white flour. All wheat was a stout loaf indeed. I was sort of hoping to not use all purpose flour, but that's doesn't look like it's possible.

    any feedback welcome.


    brural
     
  2. Popcorn will work i can buy 50lb for 10-11 at sams club. You could also use whole or cracked corn from a feed store i can buy that for about 6 per 50. deer corn may not be a good choice as i have read it can contain higher nitrate content than corn meant for human consumption. you could also use home grown field or dent. I have never tried drying sweet corn but see no reason you couldnt use that also. I also use a corona hand mill. to boost the protien of your breads you can grind a tablespoon or so of soybean or any dry bean as well. also try using butermilk or eggs in your bread sometime for intresting textures. a bread dough also makes a wonderful homemade pizza roll it or press it out put a can of tomato sauce and a can of tomato paste together add italian spices for pizza sauce then pile on toppings some cheese bake hot 400 or more for a bout 10-15 minutes tell it is golden and better than pizza rut and only cost 2-3 dollars . i dust the dough and toppings with cornmeal. some more variations to try with bread are soak some whole wheat a day to soften and add them whole for wheat berry bread screen the whole wheat and toast the germ in an oven untill browned at low to med temp then add it oats can also be toasted toasting gives a nutty taste.
     

  3. perennial

    perennial Well-Known Member

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    is there a difference between cracked corn from a feed store and my cracking the popcorn kernals myself. I bought organic ones at a local co-op. I bought the Country Living Grain Mill and love it!

    Someone told me that corn you grind is already flat - was she right or wrong?
    My grain mill will crack and grind into a flour.

    brural
     
  4. Tater'sPa

    Tater'sPa Well-Known Member

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    Popcorn kernel makes a great cornmeal and delicious in cornbread. Be aware that some grain grinders warn against using popcorn unless cracked first due to it's hardness and chance of damage to your grinder.
    Some local flour mill will sell whole grains fairly cheap in 50# You may want to check in your area :)
     
  5. sugarspinner

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    Popcorn is fine because it's food grade. We prefer to grind open-pollinated, flint-type corn because of it's hardness and it's flavor. Either white or yellow is good. However, that is difficult to find unless you raise it yourself. Sweet corn can be dried and ground, also, and the results are good. We use a stone mill and don't grind sweet corn because it tends to gum up the stones. With a steel burr mill though, you should be okay.

    This is partly in answer to your answer to me in another thread. If I were you, I wouldn't ever store grain or meal in Tupperware or other plastic. Plastic tends to hold in any bit of moisture, causing mustiness and even mold. We store our grain and meal-----------and sell our meal and flour---------- in heavy paper or cloth only.

    Enjoy your mill. Yes, it is much better than store-bought.
     
  6. uncle Will in In.

    uncle Will in In. Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A local grain elevater has a corn meal making business as a side line. They contract with farmers to raise white dent field corn for the white corn meal. In this area yellow corn meal is a bigger seller. It is made from field corn also. I like corn bread that has wheat flour mixed with the corn. Getting the corn ground really fine helps to not get course cornbread. I see no reason any dry corn wouldn't work as long as you put enough onions in the batter when baking.
    Would ya pass them hush puppies this way please?
     
  7. perennial

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    do you have a recipe for real hushpuppies? Never made them or tasted them, but my hubby said they are really good.
     
  8. Tater'sPa

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    Mmmmmm-Mmmmmmm!
    The Fish Camps around here are well known for hush puppies. A flounder plate loaded with fillets, home fries, coleslaw & hushpuppies! It's usually a Friday night tradition around here :) Sometimes I get the catfish :D
     
  9. poorme

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    Problem with grinding feed corn is it will be genetically modified.
     
  10. Allan Mistler

    Allan Mistler Just a simple man

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    I'll ask it anyway in keeping with my reputation :eek:
    In the past I've enjoyed raising what we call Indian Corn around here. It's that decoratively colored corn that folks pay top dollar for in the Fall to place around their homes. The reason we raise it (besides the substantial income) is because it seems totally immune to insect damage which avoids the use of chemicals altogether. The kernels are very hard and dry nicely; would it be a corn anyone here has ever ground up for flour?
    Thanks for all the great ideas you folks present!
     
  11. you should restate that to could be geneticly modified not all farmers ran out and bought roundup ready corn i doubt we have 2% in my state. You may also want to rephrase to "an issue" rather than "a problem" as very few people see it as any problem for injestion most concerns are not about eating it but impact on environment loss of other genetics etc etc.
     
  12. poorme

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    Regarding Indian Corn

    You certainly could grind it up and many people do. You could sell it as corn meal in a nice little paper bag with a purty label on it and make more cash!
     
  13. Cyngbaeld

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    Allan, look at the corn. If the kernels are round and smooth like popcorn, it is flint corn. It doesn't matter what color it is. You can grind it for flour.

    Hushpuppies:
    2 cups corn meal
    1 cup wheat flour
    3 tsp baking powder
    1 to 2 tsp salt
    1 or 2 eggs

    Mix together and add milk till you have a thick batter. It should be dry enough to hold its shape. Drop by tablespoons into hot grease and brown on both sides (make sure it is done in the middle).

    You can add powdered onion and pepper to the batter if you like.
     
  14. poorme

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    It is a problem for many people. Doesn't bother me though. Probably has less pesticide residue.

    Roundup Ready corn isn't too widely planted (though it makes up about 60% of soybeans). The bt products are much more common. If you bought a bag of feed corn I'd be absolutely shocked if it didn't have some genetically modified grain in it. You could buy it direct from a farmer who wasn't using a GM variety.
     
  15. " You could also use whole or cracked corn from a feed store i can buy that for about 6 per 50."



    I'd be leery of buying corn from a feed store for people food. I really don't believe they would be that careful with it. It's intended for poultry and cattle. As a kid, I used to sneak into our shorts bin and helped myself. Very tasty!, but not recomended.
     
  16. Leah IL

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    I have a wonderful 100% whole wheat recipe that is soft, light and delicious. I can post it if you're interested.
     
  17. sugarspinner

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    Yes Allen, grind your left-over Indian corn. We have and the resulting meal was an interesting calico. It makes pretty cornbread and would probably fetch a premium price from those who prefer the unusual. We didn't notice a marked difference in the flavor.
     
  18. uncle Will in In.

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    Unless you hate onions you just gotta dice up a batch of them and put them in the batter for your HUSH PUPPIES. And don't forget to add a liberal batch of onions in your corn meal muffins and the little minature muffins. GOLEEE them tasty little buggers would make you kiss yer Mother in law! Shove that cow butter over here again Elmer.
     
  19. Freeholder

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    I make a really good cornbread with potato flakes substituting for the flour -- my daughter and I have celiac disease so have to cook without wheat. If anyone would like to have the recipe I can post it.

    My little grain mill won't do whole corn, but the cornmeal (coarse for polenta) in the bulk bins at Fred Meyer is really good. I hope to replace the little mill I have with one that will grind corn, though, as we use a lot of cornmeal. I, too, was amazed at the difference in flavor. My grandmother doesn't like the coarser texture, though, and insists on buying regular cornmeal!

    Kathleen in Oregon
     
  20. Mrs_stuart

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    Leah, I dont know if they are interested, but i sure am...please post it.

    Belinda