Grasshoppers! Help!

Discussion in 'Gardening & Plant Propagation' started by Randy Rooster, Sep 19, 2005.

  1. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Will anything work on grasshoppers? They are eating my fall collard broccolli and cabbage plants up!
     
  2. sheep tamer

    sheep tamer former HT member

    Messages:
    276
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2005
    Besides Chickens? Do you mean toxic stuff or
    natural? There is a biological control you can apply
    early in the spring that will cause them to die
    and/or cannibalize themselves called, Nosema
    Locustae. See it here:http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-b...16395947722&query=nosema&image.x=30&image.y=8

    We were going to get it but considering the
    small area we'd be putting it on, too much
    untreated land around us would send them
    hopping our way later on, anyway. Ideally,
    you get the neighbors to also do their land.

    Here's what will help NOW. Run, do not walk to
    your nearest fabric store and buy cheapo bridal
    lace (called Tulle). It's available in extra wide
    widths, (I bought 72" wide stuff) and costs $.57/yd.
    at *China* Mart. Lay it over your plants...
    weighting it down at the edges. It's light and
    won't restrict growth.

    Small jars with water and molasses buried part
    way in the soil around plants also attracts and
    drowns them, too. We really have seen our
    flock of chickens doing serious damage to the
    grasshopper population around our place...but
    still won't harvest the green beans like we
    wanted to this year. Hope these ideas will help.
     

  3. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    I need some toxic stuff that will kill em. Either that or I can kiss my fall/winte garden good bye.r
     
  4. sheep tamer

    sheep tamer former HT member

    Messages:
    276
    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2005
    Hate to see you lose your crop.
    Hate even more to see you have
    to eat food grown in a toxic dump. :rolleyes:

    The same link to arbico organics that
    I posted has a product called garlic
    guard that is supposed to make
    grasshoppers and other pests do
    an about face. I think I'd try that
    first, or concoct my own version.
     
  5. greenboy

    greenboy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,199
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2005
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I got praying mantis eggs in Texas, and they love to eat them
     
  6. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Lucky for my garden I have google.

    Sevin
    Malathion
    Permethrin

    all will kill the critters. I am gonna dose em up good tommorrow. Thanks everybody!
     
  7. Marcia in MT

    Marcia in MT Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    2,655
    Joined:
    May 11, 2002
    Location:
    northcentral Montana
    We used the grasshopper disease (Nosema locustae) a long time ago with wonderful results. It got into the population and we haven't had a problem since. Oh sure, we have hoppers, but the population pressure is minimal as is the damage. It may be too late in the year to use it, however, as it works best on the first several instars rather than the adults.

    Nolo Bait is the best known brand.
     
  8. Marcia in MT

    Marcia in MT Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    2,655
    Joined:
    May 11, 2002
    Location:
    northcentral Montana
    We used the grasshopper disease (Nosema locustae) many years ago and it worked -- is working -- wonderfully. We still have hoppers, but the population pressure is minimal, as is their damage. It seems to have spread from our place to the surrounding areas, so immigration doesn't seem to be a problem, either.

    The best known brand is Nolo Bait.
     
  9. Marcia in MT

    Marcia in MT Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    2,655
    Joined:
    May 11, 2002
    Location:
    northcentral Montana
    Well, looks like BOTH my replies went through -- sorry about the repetition!
     
  10. dlangland

    dlangland dlangland

    Messages:
    827
    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Location:
    NW Iowa
    Please think twice before resorting to chemicals.
     
  11. Randy, do you fish? If so, you have a great supply of fish bait. Catch anything from sun perch to catfish. I know they're a nuisant but sometimes I kind of wish I was invaded with them. I like to stock up on them. Go out at night time in the dark with a good flash light and a cannister of some type. At sundown they climb up high on tall weeds, fence post, side of the house, etc. All you have to do is shine the light on them and reach over and pick them right off. Place them in your cannister and when full place the cannister in your freezer. Next morning after frozen dead place them in a baggie and then keep frozen 'til your next fishing trip.

    If you got any fishing buddies you might consider selling them a few baggies full for their own use.

    While it's on my mind, I think I'll go outside and catch me a few.
     
  12. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    I have been trying to devise some kind of grasshoper trap. What would I use as bait?
     
  13. Beergeek

    Beergeek Self-Medicating

    Messages:
    11
    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2005
    Location:
    Caledonia MI
    I hear fall collard broccolli and cabbage works well...... :D
     
  14. woodspirit

    woodspirit Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,274
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Location:
    Bristol, ny
    I got so sick of grasshoppers and crickets around here that I decided to get half a dozen chickens. I've got about two acres of lawn and a small garden. They cost about a dollar each. Cheaper than a small bottle of sevin. Now we get six eggs a day and at the end of the year we get free chicken too. I see a few crickets now once in awhile. very few. The chickens work from morning till dark and put themselves away too. Oh yeah and they fertilize everywhere they go. I don't have to re-apply them every ten days either.
     
  15. Kee Wan

    Kee Wan Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    317
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    I know that my dad used to put on nyons and walk through the grass to catch hoppers for fishing - apparently they get stuck in and can't free themselves.....

    I don't know if they can chew themselves out after a while - but they sure do get stock in the short term. :)
     
  16. dlangland

    dlangland dlangland

    Messages:
    827
    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Location:
    NW Iowa
    I am so thankful, Randy, that hopefully this means you have decided against chemicals.
     
  17. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina
    I am not understanding this phobia you have against usuing chemicals on the garden. The broccoli wont weven form heads for a couple of months yet- well after the time that any residue will be gone. The collards wont be ready to pick until mid november at the earliest- they will increase in size by about 20 fold and not only will the leaves that I spray today be cropped off long before then, as the oldest lower leqaves normally are poor quality, but the cabbage will have a head that was never exposed to spray. Can you tell me why you are so dead set on not using a spray?
     
  18. dlangland

    dlangland dlangland

    Messages:
    827
    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Location:
    NW Iowa
    Sorry, sir. I will learn to keep my typing fingers to myself. Never believed in them myself, that's my thing. Totally organic for all my gardening years... Have a chemist in the immediate family who has done extensive research on the long-term effects, and I proofread every one of her term papers. I will never believe anything on the informational flyer or the back of any pesticide or herbicide container, but that's just me. I'm gone.
     
  19. katydidagain

    katydidagain Adventuress--Definition 2 Supporter

    Messages:
    4,174
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2004
    Location:
    NE FL until the winds blow
    Randy, I don't spray chemicals because it means repeating it every season and I'm too dang lazy. Have you tried Lemon Scented Sunlight Dishwashing Detergent (the handwashing type)? Mix it up really strong--at least 3 T. to a quart--heck, try 1/4 cup and give those nasty critters a full bubble bath! No, I've never tried it on them but have on other garden nasties and even discouraged (I believe) birds from stealing fruit. It's worth a 'shot'...

    katy
     
  20. Randy Rooster

    Randy Rooster Well-Known Member Supporter

    Messages:
    1,730
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2004
    Location:
    North Carolina

    You did not address my question, but that was about what I expected.