[Daniel Turner]

Hello all. I have a pygmy goat who when I purchased her I didn't know she was pregnant. After I realized it I did research and found some helpful info, but today she is giving birth she had one earlier with some problems but was able to push her out. She's got a twin in there with one leg poking out. It's been like this for 2 hours and I need to know what to do my vet can't come till tomorrow, the 1 leg is angled down and I checked i couldn't feel anything else. I wanted to bring the other leg out. She contracted so I gave a easy tug but was met with quite a bit of resistance. Can someone please tell me what I can do to help.

 

[nehimama]

Please keep trying. It doesn't sound like she can deliver the kid without your intervention. Good Luck!

 

[nehimama]

I hope you have small hands, or a helper with small hands. If you can *go in* and locate the kid's head, grasp the lower jaw gently, but firmly. Work the head into the birth canal. You can safely deliver a kid with head and only one leg presenting. Please let us know how it goes.

 

[Daniel Turner]

Please keep trying. It doesn't sound like she can deliver the kid without your intervention. Good Luck!

Do you suggest I maybe pull a little harder when she contracts or what I should do I don't want her to die before a vet can come but I don't want to hurt her.

 

[Daniel Turner]

I hope you have small hands, or a helper with small hands. If you can *go in* and locate the kid's head, grasp the lower jaw gently, but firmly. Work the head into the birth canal. You can safely deliver a kid with head and only one leg presenting. Please let us know how it goes.

I'm with her now I have small hands ill feel in there again I was only feeling 1 leg but I was scared to go too farb

 

[nehimama]

Please try to maneuver the kid's head into the birth canal before doing any strenuous pulling (pull only with contractions, and draw downward.)

 

[nehimama]

You're doing great. Don't be scared. Mama depends on you! I'd help out if I were nearby.

 

[Alice In TX/MO]

You cannot go too far. You MUST go in and figure out if it’s a front leg or back leg and where the matching one is. You MUST figure out where the kids head is.

 

[nehimama]

Can you tell if the leg presenting is a front or back leg?

 

[Daniel Turner]

Can you tell if the leg presenting is a front or back leg?

Its a front leg. If I stick my fingers in there I feel the leg and nothing else if I go further I can feel the cervix but nothing else if that makes sense no head no other leg it just feels like a leg stuck out of a wall basically and she isn't making any progress

 

[Alice In TX/MO]

https://www.faintinggoatguild.com/husbandryreproduction.htm

Scroll down on this page. Pictures of what is likely happening. Sounds like the head may be turned back. You MUST GET IN.

 

[nehimama]

Oh, dear! You really need to dig around and find the head. It's probably flung back over its shoulder, and it's a very difficult presentation, but I'm sure you can find and fish that head around and into the birth canal. Don't give up!

 

[nehimama]

You'll have to get past the cervix to find the head. You can do it!

 

[Daniel Turner]

You'll have to get past the cervix to find the head. You can do it!

OK I'm trying I'm being easy but I'm gonna do the best I can ill go deeper

 

[nehimama]

It may help to upend the doe, so that her rear end is up in the air, and her head and shoulders on the ground. Gravity may help to push the kid back so you can reposition its head.

 

[nehimama]

Gosh, I wish I could come over there and help you!

 

[Daniel Turner]

I wish too she starts screaming when I get through the wall I feel maybe whats a head but can't get around it

 

[nehimama]

Yes, it hurts, but please! You must find the head. It is possible to pull the kid as it's presented, but I guarantee it will die.

 

[Daniel Turner]

Yes, it hurts, but please! You must find the head. It is possible to pull the kid as it's presented, but I guarantee it will die.

If I get around the head can I just pull? Like go in get my one hand around it and slowly pull? I'm not giving up.

 

[nehimama]

If you can get ahold of the head, you're halfway home. Grasp the lower jaw, and work that head over the shoulder and into the birth canal. You can do this! You have my prayers for a good outcome.