Freedom of Speech

Discussion in 'Countryside Families' started by Hears The Water, Jan 11, 2007.

  1. Hears The Water

    Hears The Water Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Below is a post that I put up at my home school co-op's web page. The HSLDA that I mention is Home School Legal Defense Association. This information pertains to any group that sends out information to their members. You could be a member of the "Fans of Green Beans" group and if you send out an alert to you 600 members telling them that there is a Senate bill threatening your rights to enjoy green beans, then you could get fined if you aren't registered....if the bill I mention below goes thru! I think that this is something that everyone needs to be aware of no matter what your political leanings are. This is not intended to start a fire fight about who is right or who is wrong in their beliefs, but to let you know about something that could be imoportant to you. HTH.
    God bless you and yours
    Deb

    Hey all, I have recieved two alerts that got my attention today. The first one came from the American Family Association, and the second one came from HSLDA. They both speak of the Senate trying to pass Senate bill 1 (section 220). The long and short of it is that the bill will require any group that sends out more than 500 alerts with instructions to call your senator, will have to register with congress and then maintain quaterly reports or face fines of up to $100,000. According to the AFA, congress is tired of our phone calls, e-mails and letters telling them that we don't like something that they are doing. We are making a difference on a congressional level and they don't like it. They know that we have the right to tell them what we think and that they cannot stop it, so they are going after the people that keep us informed about such matters. Rather clever I think, but if we all band togeather I don't think it will pass. There is a counter bill in the works, and the HSLDA link goes further into that along with what you can do. Here are some links to the stories and instructions as to what to do. Please don't just take my word on it, check it out for yourself! This one is from Focus on the Family: http://www.focuspetitions.com/

    This one is from the AFA: http://www.afa.net/senatebill1.htm

    And this one is from HSLDA: http://www.hslda.org/elert/archive/2007/01/20070111145504.asp

    Please take the time to read these over and pass them along to all of your friends and family! This is very important!
    God bless you and yours
    Debbie
     
  2. lvshrs

    lvshrs Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the heads up! I'll check it out ASAP!
     

  3. ginnie5

    ginnie5 wife,mom,taxi driver,cook Supporter

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    going there now! You know what really gets me is that they think they are above the very people who put them there!
     
  4. Trixie

    Trixie Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't surprise me at all and that fact, alone, upsets me.

    As for their thinking they are above us - they have for many years. We can witness that by how many of them are contantly voted back into office - we have a 90% encumbency rate.

    They don't fear us - they just don't want to hear from us.
     
  5. DenverGirlie

    DenverGirlie Well-Known Member

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    You can find the entire Bill here:
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1:


    Here is the actual proposed law, section 220


    SEC. 220. DISCLOSURE OF PAID EFFORTS TO STIMULATE GRASSROOTS LOBBYING.

    (a) Definitions- Section 3 of the Act (2 U.S.C. 1602) is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (7), by adding at the end of the following: `Lobbying activities include paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying, but do not include grassroots lobbying.'; and

    (2) by adding at the end of the following:

    `(17) GRASSROOTS LOBBYING- The term `grassroots lobbying' means the voluntary efforts of members of the general public to communicate their own views on an issue to Federal officials or to encourage other members of the general public to do the same.

    `(18) PAID EFFORTS TO STIMULATE GRASSROOTS LOBBYING-

    `(A) IN GENERAL- The term `paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying' means any paid attempt in support of lobbying contacts on behalf of a client to influence the general public or segments thereof to contact one or more covered legislative or executive branch officials (or Congress as a whole) to urge such officials (or Congress) to take specific action with respect to a matter described in section 3(8)(A), except that such term does not include any communications by an entity directed to its members, employees, officers, or shareholders.

    `(B) PAID ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR SEGMENTS THEREOF- The term `paid attempt to influence the general public or segments thereof' does not include an attempt to influence directed at less than 500 members of the general public.

    `(C) REGISTRANT- For purposes of this paragraph, a person or entity is a member of a registrant if the person or entity--

    `(i) pays dues or makes a contribution of more than a nominal amount to the entity;

    `(ii) makes a contribution of more than a nominal amount of time to the entity;

    `(iii) is entitled to participate in the governance of the entity;

    `(iv) is 1 of a limited number of honorary or life members of the entity; or

    `(v) is an employee, officer, director or member of the entity.

    `(19) GRASSROOTS LOBBYING FIRM- The term `grassroots lobbying firm' means a person or entity that--

    `(A) is retained by 1 or more clients to engage in paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying on behalf of such clients; and

    `(B) receives income of, or spends or agrees to spend, an aggregate of $25,000 or more for such efforts in any quarterly period.'.

    (b) Registration- Section 4(a) of the Act (2 U.S.C. 1603(a)) is amended--

    (1) in the flush matter at the end of paragraph (3)(A), by adding at the end the following: `For purposes of clauses (i) and (ii), the term `lobbying activities' shall not include paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying.'; and

    (2) by inserting after paragraph (3) the following:

    `(4) FILING BY GRASSROOTS LOBBYING FIRMS- Not later than 45 days after a grassroots lobbying firm first is retained by a client to engage in paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying, such grassroots lobbying firm shall register with the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House of Representatives.'.

    (c) Separate Itemization of Paid Efforts To Stimulate Grassroots Lobbying- Section 5(b) of the Act (2 U.S.C. 1604(b)) is amended--

    (1) in paragraph (3), by--

    (A) inserting after `total amount of all income' the following: `(including a separate good faith estimate of the total amount of income relating specifically to paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying and, within that amount, a good faith estimate of the total amount specifically relating to paid advertising)'; and

    (B) inserting `or a grassroots lobbying firm' after `lobbying firm';

    (2) in paragraph (4), by inserting after `total expenses' the following: `(including a good faith estimate of the total amount of expenses relating specifically to paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying and, within that total amount, a good faith estimate of the total amount specifically relating to paid advertising)'; and

    (3) by adding at the end the following:

    `Subparagraphs (B) and (C) of paragraph (2) shall not apply with respect to reports relating to paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying activities.'.

    (d) Good Faith Estimates and De Minimis Rules for Paid Efforts To Stimulate Grassroots Lobbying-

    (1) IN GENERAL- Section 5(c) of the Act (2 U.S.C. 1604(c)) is amended to read as follows:

    `(c) Estimates of Income or Expenses- For purposes of this section, the following shall apply:

    `(1) Estimates of income or expenses shall be made as follows:

    `(A) Estimates of amounts in excess of $10,0000 shall be rounded to the nearest $20,000.

    `(B) In the event income or expenses do not exceed $10,000, the registrant shall include a statement that income or expenses totaled less than $10,000 for the reporting period.

    `(2) Estimates of income or expenses relating specifically to paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying shall be made as follows:

    `(A) Estimates of amounts in excess of $25,000 shall be rounded to the nearest $20,000.

    `(B) In the event income or expenses do not exceed $25,000, the registrant shall include a statement that income or expenses totaled less than $25,000 for the reporting period.'.

    (2) TAX REPORTING- Section 15 of the Act (2 U.S.C. 1610) is amended--

    (A) in subsection (a)--

    (i) in paragraph (1), by striking `and' after the semicolon;

    (ii) in paragraph (2), by striking the period and inserting `; and'; and

    (iii) by adding at the end the following:

    `(3) in lieu of using the definition of paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying in section 3(18), consider as paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying only those activities that are grassroots expenditures as defined in section 4911(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.'; and

    (B) in subsection (b)--

    (i) in paragraph (1), by striking `and' after the semicolon;

    (ii) in paragraph (2), by striking the period and inserting `; and'; and

    (iii) by adding at the end the following:

    `(3) in lieu of using the definition of paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying in section 3(18), consider as paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying only those activities that are grassroots expenditures as defined in section 4911(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.'.
     
  6. mama2littleman

    mama2littleman El Paso

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    DenverGirlie,

    Thank you for posting the actual text of the proposed bill. It reads a whole lot different then it was being presented as.

    Nikki
     
  7. reese

    reese Well-Known Member

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    Here's the Library of Congress site:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S.1: (same site posted above, but I ame leaving this due to this link gives options to look at all the information easier.)

    This makes it easier, imo, to keep track of the process without the clutter of "group agenda" mixing interpretation with the facts. Helps make a better educated decision on topic. Reese