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· Just living Life
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Hello Martin,

Please add me to your list again this year!!

Think we have the Rabbit population down this year.

Last years Tomatoes were great!! The two carrots I managed to steal from the Rabbits were wonderful.
Shared the beet seeds with a like minded friend.

All in All, this is a wonderful thing you do Martin !!

Thank you.
 

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Hi Martin,

I emailed you. Thanks so much. I'm hoping I'm not going to be killing any of them. :no:
 

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Finally think that everyone is accounted for so far. If anyone was missed, blame the forum!

For those getting the tomato seeds, don't take them lightly just because they are free. A lot of work and headaches went into making them available. It's also hoped that some of you will save seeds from them to keep them going, especially if they do well for you. For some fun reading, check out the mountain that I had to climb in Garden Web when a simple free offer went ballistic! "One man with courage is a majority."

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/exch090156456690.html?43

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I am definetly saving my seeds this year. My husband keeps hounding me every year because I keep talking about bigger and bigger gardens, and he talks about cost. So I told him if I grow varieties that I can save the seeds from, That would lower the cost to next to nothing. He liked that. I am starting to grow a wide variety of tomatoes, to see what kind I like. I haven't any early varieties yet though...I also like the odd ones....sorry for the rambling! :)

~Marisa :)
 

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Martin,
I received my seeds today. THANK YOU! :dance:
Can you refer me to information on the identification of the tricotyledons( I dont even know what that means :rolleyes: ) in the Romas? I am not educated in this stuff. This year will be my first year trying to save seeds for next year. So as you can tell I have lots to learn yet, but willing to learn!

Kathy
 

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OK, it's time that you all got an education on that subject. There are two kinds of seedlings. One is monocotyledon and the other is dicotyledon. Both words will be found in your standard dictionary. Cotyledons are the first leaves to emerge from the seed. Usually, they are very much unlike the second set of leaves which are called true leaves. Deviation from the normal is not common and in many cases is fatal. For example, a 3-lobed walnut or hickory nut is not uncommon but those seeds can never grow. It's Nature's way of not allowing her mistakes to continue.

Now we come to the tomatoes. With normal indeterminate varieties, perhaps there will be a tricotyledon at the rate of 1 in 4,000. Or you may grow thousands of seedlings per year and never see one in your lifetime. However, determinate varieties, such as most of the paste types, have different genes. One, although not named, is an acceleration gene which causes the plant to grow rapidly and produce a large number of fruit at one time. I have proven that it can be manifested right from the start with the seed producing 50% more growth immediately by producing an extra cotyledon. Being true cotyledons rather than two normal and one double, from a twin embryo, the tricotyledons also then produce three true leaves instead of the normal two. Throughout the growing period, growth will continue to be 50% more than normal.

We've already established that it is a fixed recessive gene in my variety. With time, I am certain that it would become a dominant gene and to the point where a normal dicotyledon seeding would be culled as being inferior. There has been only one tricotyledon study made and that was 80 years ago and with an indeterminate variety. It's never been researched with a determinate type until now. Four generations of mine has produced tricotyledons. Seed only saved from those plants. I fully expect 1 in 12 seeds to produce a seedling with an extra cotyledon. However, all of the seed that has been sent out this year is unproven as to the percentage of tricotyledons. It would disappoint me if everyone didn't end up with at least one or two per packet.

Accelerated growth? One test plant went into the garden on 3 June with just the three tiny cotyledons showing. 14 weeks later, the plant was worn out and dead after having produced 142 fruit. That is what is possible with the Paquebot Roma if given decent growing conditions.

Then, just when I have my hands full with the Paquebot Romas, there was a tricotyledon Riesentraube cherry tomato which showed up last year and gives me one more to play with!

Oh yes, you will not find tricotyledon in the dictionary. Not yet!

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Thank You !!
I received my seeds today, that I had no idea where coming!! I was very surprised, since we had not been able to access the site, I didn't even think you had gotten my PM. Thank you again, I will be planting some next good planting day in a bed I just cleared out. I will let you know how they do here in SW Florida.

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WOW! Thanks for taking the time to explain!
I will try to keep track of what I have in my seeds and if I wind up with any tri's I will save seeds. Oh will I bee canning tomatoes this year :dance: . I dont need a tri cherry tomato! I use the sweet 100 and 1000's and have numerous tomatoes.
So do you need the information on the ones I dont kill that are tri's? Do you need number of fruit or the pounds of fruit info.? Tell me what info. and I will try to track it.

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Hello Martin, and thanks for making your offer of seeds again this year! I emailed but didn't get a confirmation that it was sent, so I hope you got it! If not, let me know, and I'll try again! I'd like to try the tomatoes...any or all of them, especially the Romas. I have just a few of the yellow carrot seeds left from last year, so they're going in as soon as the ground is ready, and I'll let you know if I manage to grow them this year! Thanks for your generosity! Be sure everyone, to report back to him on how the seeds do in your area!

Jan in CO
 

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Thanks for the offer! I sent an email last night hope you got it! :D
 

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sent you an email. great explanation on cotyledon's, would you post best way to save seeds on the tomatoes then again maybe that should be a new thread.
 

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Yea!

I got mine yesterday. Thank you for them all!! Is there any information I should record that you would like? I will be starting my tomato seeds around the middle of March.

Let me know, and I'll keep track of everything for you.

~Marisa :)
 
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The requests are exceeding expectations. Based on the two previous years, I figured that HT would result in 50 requests maximum. We're well over that already and half of the regular garden killers haven't asked yet! I had reserved about 1,000 Wisconsin 55 seeds for HT but if you read the GW thread, you will see my claim that I will NOT run out of seed. Thus I am arranging for more seed to be sent down from Randolph, Jung's headquarters, so that everyone will have a chance to grow it. Supposedly quaranteed pure and came from the same original source as mine.

This summer, we'll have a thread on saving seeds to keep the tomato varieties going. It's not complicated rocket science. Old farmers did it for many years and still do. There's no excuse to ever buy an OP tomato variety more than once in a lifetime.

Happy gardening!

Martin
 
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