There was a thread going on about E85 and various things related to that such as the added cost to a vehicle, the lower gas mileage etc. I'd like to respond to various aspects of using E85. I own a 2000 Dodge Grand Caravan that is an FFV (flex fuel vehicle) that runs on E85 or straight gas. I purchased the vehicle new in 1999 and now have about 100,000 miles on it, maybe 40,000 of that has been on E85. When I purchased the van it didn't cost anymore than a vehicle that didn't run on E85. I change the oil every 4000-5000 miles and I do NOT use the oil that Dodge recommends for using E85. I have had absolutely no problems with this vehicle, other than the usual brakes and tires. I do all the recommended service such as tune ups and filter changes. My mileage does go down into the low 20's from the mid 20's for combined city/hwy driving. I live about 15 miles out of a small town and 70 miles from a major city. We drive a lot, but it's never just city or just hwy. When gas was $3.00 a gallon here I was buying E85 at $2.55, now they are about the same. The only reason I don't use it all the time is availability. I also own a 2005 Toyota Prius hybrid. I average 40 miles to the gallon with that car between summer and winter driving. Winter driving really lowers the mpg. I'm happy to get 35mpg in the winter and 45mpg in the summer. The reason I have these cars is to use less oil and save on emmissions. I feel that for those of us who can afford to purchase the higher priced Prius or use the E85 that costs the same as gas but gives us less mileage, is the right thing to do. Eventually the price of Hybrids will come down, and more E85 will be available. But somebody has to buy the cars and buy the E85, eventually things will balance out, plus it will pave the way for more and different technologies. At least that's what I hope I'm doing.