[HorseGal]

I just found out my dog has worms, so I'm figuring this means that all three of the dogs have worms. I need to know of a good wormer to give them. I think they are flea related, which I will be treating all the animals for that as well. So does anybody have a suggestion as to what works well?? Any help would be very appreciated.

 

[countrygrrrl]

Panacur is a very safe and effective wormer. The wormers typically sold at stores (like Hartz, etc) are, in my opinion, not only useless but very hard on the critters.

Depending on the area you're in, you might want to get the pups on heartworm preventative, like Heartgard --- that also helps whoop out other worms.

For now, though, I'd get some Panacur.

 

[HorseGal]

I forgot to mention that I am going to try and get this stuff through a vet supply store probably online. Anyone got a recommendation on those?? I was looking at Valley Vet, but the don't have prices listed for their flea and tick control stuff like Frontline...I'll look up the Panacur.

 

[Yankee1]

I give Safeguard to my dogs and goats.

 

[countrygrrrl]

I forgot to mention that I am going to try and get this stuff through a vet supply store probably online. Anyone got a recommendation on those?? I was looking at Valley Vet, but the don't have prices listed for their flea and tick control stuff like Frontline...I'll look up the Panacur.

The Panacur for dogs stuff that you can get online used to require a prescription. It may not anymore, though. There's Panacur for horses, though, which is the same thing, except ... it's for horses and will require MUCH MUCH MUCH LESS, needless to say.

You might just go ahead and get something like Heartgard instead of worming. Frontline won't get rid of the worms, but I think Heartgard does. And it protects them from heartworm.

 

[countrygrrrl]

Ack, I just checked on Heartgard and it protects against everything but tapeworms. And if your pups have worms from fleas, it's likely tapeworm they have.



Also Heartgard should NEVER be given to herding dogs. !! That includes collies and shepherds.

So just ignore me!

 

[HorseGal]

Ack, I just checked on Heartgard and it protects against everything but tapeworms. And if your pups have worms from fleas, it's likely tapeworm they have.



Also Heartgard should NEVER be given to herding dogs. !! That includes collies and shepherds.

So just ignore me!

See I have an Aussie..so heartguard is out the window....the cheapest Advantage I could find is available through Equine Megastore but its in Australia, I think...otherwise there is California Vet Supply...but its not cheap. GRRRR....this is not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

 

[countrygrrrl]

See I have an Aussie..so heartguard is out the window....the cheapest Advantage I could find is available through Equine Megastore but its in Australia, I think...otherwise there is California Vet Supply...but its not cheap. GRRRR....this is not as easy as I thought it was going to be.

I have to go to a meeting 25 miles away now (more grrr-ing because I hate driving :no: ) but when I get back, if no one's shown up with a good online source for you, I'll dig mine up and post them here.

It will be a while --- like a few hours.

 

[HorseGal]

That works for me....

 

[Maura]

How do you know what worms they have? Your vet can do a fecal exam and tell you what kinds of worms they have. Tapeworm medicine is very cheap, althought diatomaceous (?) earth works on them. If they aren't tapeworms, then you need to be very careful about picking up poop and keeping the dogs in a different area or they will just keep reinfecting themselves.

 

[agmantoo]

http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=a981a331-83e0-42f5-bf86-0a5b069cc1f0

 

[HorseGal]

I'm pretty sure that's what they are...I don't see what else they could be from. My dogs are mainly house dogs...we still live in the burbs. They look like little yellow grains of rice...at least that's how the vet described what to look out for, when my dog was there in Jan. apparently he didn't have these worms then. Which I thought was kinda strange..why just show up now. I would take him to the vet I just thought it would be cheaper to do it myself.

 

[moopups]

1-800- jeffers.

 

[chickflick]

Fecal check w/Vet is usually under $10 (If you only take the sample to drop off).

Droncit.. a tab from the vet is about $3.50 per pill. It is dosed by weight, by vet. Droncit is for tape worms.

Strongid-T is for the rest of the worms other than tapes and heart. It is a yellow liquid. Just ask vet for it. A bottle will last a long time and is probably only about $12. Need not refrigerate. Can even give to puppies at 2/4/6 wks.

Lastly... heartworms... (and all other worms except tapes) are treated monthly w/Ivomec. THIS IS NOT VET REcOMMENED, however. You must be CAREFUL about dosage per weight as this is for cattle. Most Tractor Supply stores have it.. around $40 for a bottle to last a lifetime.. (maybe several!) HEARTWORM TEST MUST BE CLEAR to use for PREVENTATIVE.. DO NOT TRY TO GET RID OF HEARTWORMS IF DETECTED BY TEST.. let vet. (They can now do it w/a couple of pills and an overnight stay)

Okay.. hope this helps.

 

[HorseGal]

Fecal check w/Vet is usually under $10 (If you only take the sample to drop off).

Droncit.. a tab from the vet is about $3.50 per pill. It is dosed by weight, by vet. Droncit is for tape worms.

Strongid-T is for the rest of the worms other than tapes and heart. It is a yellow liquid. Just ask vet for it. A bottle will last a long time and is probably only about $12. Need not refrigerate. Can even give to puppies at 2/4/6 wks.

Lastly... heartworms... (and all other worms except tapes) are treated monthly w/Ivomec. THIS IS NOT VET REcOMMENED, however. You must be CAREFUL about dosage per weight as this is for cattle. Most Tractor Supply stores have it.. around $40 for a bottle to last a lifetime.. (maybe several!) HEARTWORM TEST MUST BE CLEAR to use for PREVENTATIVE.. DO NOT TRY TO GET RID OF HEARTWORMS IF DETECTED BY TEST.. let vet. (They can now do it w/a couple of pills and an overnight stay)

Okay.. hope this helps.

It cost me 25 dollars to get a fecal sample for my dog, the vet I go to is costly but they are good people. However I am more comfortable just getting it off the net, cause I am short on cash...got suspended from work..Anyway, I will keep those in mind in case the other stuff doesn't work.

 

[countrygrrrl]

It cost me 25 dollars to get a fecal sample for my dog, the vet I go to is costly but they are good people. However I am more comfortable just getting it off the net, cause I am short on cash...got suspended from work..Anyway, I will keep those in mind in case the other stuff doesn't work.

Horsegal, do NOT use Ivomec, Ivermectin or any product containing ivermectin (like Heartguard) on your Aussie. The collie and herding breeds, many of them have some kind of mutation or something which causes those ivermectin products to wreak havoc with them. Sometimes resulting in death.

Jeffers is great, thanks moopups! Lambriar might also have Panacur. I can never get their website to work if I type the address, so Google "Lambriar Vet" and go to them from there.

Interceptor is a safe heartworm preventative for your pups and it does not contain ivermectin. But, like Heartgard, it's useless against tapeworms.

I have a couple other sites I use for meds. Give me a few and I'll find them.

 

[countrygrrrl]

Chickflick is right. Droncit, BTW, is what the vet prescribed for my sister a few years ago when one of her pups got tapeworms. Last summer, he prescribed Panacur for another of her dogs (one she'd found who was very wormy - sweet pup, but yoikes!).

You can get Droncit from Petshed http://www.petshed.com/droncit.asp

Safe-guard is Panacur apparently. !! Petshed does not carry Panacur. ValleyVet does. The granular form is not effective against tapeworm, though, so looks like you need the paste. Here is the link:
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_search_results.html

Ideally, you should know what kind of worms you're dealing with before you worm. HOWEVER, if you haven't been using flea and tick preventative and a heartworm preventative, and you live around livestock and in the country, it's likely your guys are wormy. At least that's my experience.

If it were me, I'd go with Droncit this month. Then get them on flea and tick preventative and interceptor. But if you can't afford all of that, and especially if you can't afford the Interceptor, then use Panacur in a month, to make sure you get any really nasty worms, like roundworm.

Good luck. Poor pups, worms are really hard on them.

 

[agmantoo]

From the URL I posted above
Safe-Guard Canine Dewormer



3 x 1 gm
Non-prescription formula (same as Panacur) contains 22.2% Fenbendazole for the treatment and control of roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, and tapeworms (Taenia) in dogs and puppies over 6 weeks of age. Dosage is 1 gm per 10 lbs. body weight, mixed daily with food for 3 days. (For a 10 lb. dog, order 3 of the 1 gm packets.)

 

[#1 DogMom]

Hi Horsegal,
I just wanted to put my two cents worth in, too. The safest thing out there is herbs. There are many that have been used very successfully for hundreds of years. I use Garlic and Brewers yeast daily and a tincture that I make up myself once a month. I too have a herding dog (a beautiful McNab) and she once got a hold of an empty (so I thought) tube of Ivermectin that I had used to worm my horse. The next day her kidneys completely shut down. I almost lost her. She spent two days in the hospital. After that I started studying herbs for us and our animals. They are so much safer and relatively inexpensive. The thing you need to remember, with any wormer, is timing. You want to give it when the moon is waxing(almost full). And do it 3 days in a row so you kill all stages. I have been doing this for my 2 girls (McNab and Jack Russel) for 2 years now and they are in excellent health.
Worming Tincture:
1 1/2 oz each: Black Walnut (hulls and leaves), Wormwood , and Myrrh.
1 pint vegetable glycerine
Put all into a jar and shake daily for about 2 weeks. Let the herbs settle and pour off the tincture, straining out the herbs through fine cheese cloth.
Give 1/2 tsp. per 20 lbs. 2X daily for 3 days. Repeat in 10 days. Then all you will have to do is once a month. Be sure to also be giving them the Garlic and Brewers (not nutritional yeast) daily. Sorry this turned out so long and thanks for letting me share this. Here's to happy healthy puppies!!!

Leanna

 

[HorseGal]

Hi Horsegal,
I just wanted to put my two cents worth in, too. The safest thing out there is herbs. There are many that have been used very successfully for hundreds of years. I use Garlic and Brewers yeast daily and a tincture that I make up myself once a month. I too have a herding dog (a beautiful McNab) and she once got a hold of an empty (so I thought) tube of Ivermectin that I had used to worm my horse. The next day her kidneys completely shut down. I almost lost her. She spent two days in the hospital. After that I started studying herbs for us and our animals. They are so much safer and relatively inexpensive. The thing you need to remember, with any wormer, is timing. You want to give it when the moon is waxing(almost full). And do it 3 days in a row so you kill all stages. I have been doing this for my 2 girls (McNab and Jack Russel) for 2 years now and they are in excellent health.
Worming Tincture:
1 1/2 oz each: Black Walnut (hulls and leaves), Wormwood , and Myrrh.
1 pint vegetable glycerine
Put all into a jar and shake daily for about 2 weeks. Let the herbs settle and pour off the tincture, straining out the herbs through fine cheese cloth.
Give 1/2 tsp. per 20 lbs. 2X daily for 3 days. Repeat in 10 days. Then all you will have to do is once a month. Be sure to also be giving them the Garlic and Brewers (not nutritional yeast) daily. Sorry this turned out so long and thanks for letting me share this. Here's to happy healthy puppies!!!

Leanna

Where would I get the ingredients for this tincture?? I am very interested in herbal remedies...so this sounds very good to me...What exactly does garlic and Brewer's Yeast do for animals..is it safe for cats...especially pregnant and eventually nursing cats?? Also, I would just like to thank everyone for their help. :worship: