Well I finally got my home internet connected in the new place up in MD. It has been quite cold here, as I guess is normal this time of year...lol. There is one big water trough that has a deicer in it although it hadn't been plugged in (I needed to get an extension cord). Then I was using a different pasture and just breaking the ice in that trough....well it is now way too frozen to do that and I thought about the trough with the deicer. Will it still work if it is already frozen when plugged in? Or is that one of those things that you need to plan ahead for? I have also learned that you have to drain hoses after use or you will not be using them for a while!! I have been lugging water buckets all over the place! I need to invest in smaller heated buckets for the goats, chickens and for the horses in their stalls, but I haven't yet found a job here and don't have the money for that right now. Guess I will be building up some muscle lugging water/ice buckets around!!