Our doe Blanche had a huge buckling at about 1:45 pm. She needed a little help, so I called a friend of mine who raises everything under the sun..goats included. She was glad to lend a hand, especially since I bought the doe from her. All ended well and we now have a beautiful little buckling, Rocky Mountain Avalanche...I believe my son will keep him and train him to drive as he wants to have a goat cart. Since I haven't figured out how to post a picture, here is a link. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/Starsmom/04-06f.jpg One down, one more to go.