Posting on my calf butting, got me thinking about my cow and calf...when to discipline, and how to do it...never had a cow in my life, so Im lost on this subject. Only have had them a little over a month now.... My jersey (7yrold) is for the most part a good girl, but here and there, when I go to put her in her stall, she will swing her head as I try to grab her halter, as if to say 'let me be'. I end up getting in front of her and pulling both sides of the halter under the chin to get her to go. Is that right, or should I be doing something more? On my calf (6weeks), I cant find a halter that fits her (anyone have any ideas?), so its a bit of a chore to get her to go where she needs to go. But I havent a clue on how to train her to lead. What else...what things do you guys slap the nose or get irate with your cow for? What do you let go, vs what do you get down and dirty about? Is it the same as with kids (in my experience anyway)-if you dont want them doing something as an adult/teenager, dont let them do it as a little one? Mary F.