I spoke of the cost of seeders in another thread and thought it might be better to simply start another thread than to reply there. Some 20+ years ago when I was married and had a family I was a very avid gardener. It was indeed a hobby and as with most hobbies there was cost involved. One particular year when I was telling my wife that I intended to order some drip irrigation equipment to the tune of several hundred dollars she was not thrilled with the expenditure at all. I gently reminded her that gardening was my hobby just as her numerous ones were to her, with mine being more fruitful with a great return. I also explained that the drip system would be useful for many years and should be looked at as an investment over those years as well as in the savings to pump less water. Using the drip irrigation on our sandy soil proved to be an excellent investment and yielded the best garden we had ever raised. We gave much away after the freezer and pantry were filled by my own hands. At the end of the season I tallied up the number of packages of frozen vegetables which translated to a payback much greater than the cost of the supplies I used. All we ate, gave away, dehydrated and canned were the icing on the cake. When it comes to looking at the cost of seeders several things need to be taken into consideration. Will a seeder speed the gardening process if one has limited time. To that I answer both yes and no. The seeds are quickly put into the ground, but it does take some time to switch between the various seeds. Perhaps more so with the precision seeder I have since a "choke", "springbase", and "punched seedbelt" may all need to be changed. I aim to plant seeds using the same choke and seedbase successively so that they need not be changed after each various seed. Changing a simple seed plate on a lower cost planter is done in mere seconds but gives way to precision. For me the best part of precision planting is to not spend hours thinning crops. If they are spaced accurately to begin with it takes away much back breaking work as well as saving much seed. Many of the "Planet Jr." planters of yesteryear are still being used today. The first ones were produced some 100 years ago. When one buys a planter perhaps they should look at it as a LOOOONG TERM investment and the per year cost of such. Over the years I have invested time to haul away straw and manure piles from the Kansas State Fairgrounds to enrich the soil. One year I purchased bags of leaves from kids. It was a job they had to do for their parents, saved the parents from hauling off the bags, and cleaned up the neighborhood as they also worked for others. With each load I hauled I gave them the old bags to use again to keep their parents cost down. That particular year I added over 200 bags of leaves to my garden in addition to many loads of grass clippings. The following spring my now rich sandy soil had earth worms for the first time. Again my time and expense well spent. When it comes to buying a hoe I have found that a "roguing" hoe is so sturdy and stout that it will take all of the abuse one can give to it. Not cheap, but it will last. Homesteadingtoday participants almost always advocate to buy the best tools and equipment you can afford. I fully agree that a quality tool is a lifetime investment rather than the shorter term investment of an inferior tool. Having said that--sometimes you use a tool so infrequently that a cheaper tool will work just as well and last ages. When it comes to tillers buy the best. I started out with a spade, advanced to a cheap front tined tiller, then added a fair tiller on the back of a Cub Cadet, and for home gardening am at the BCS tractor with rear tine tiller stage. For market gardening I also have a 1720 Ford tractor with 58" roto-tiller as well as a disk and other cultivation and soil preparation equipment. Nearly a full line as I bought out a retired market gardener. Never again at my age would I consider doing the work of what a gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel will. There is satisfaction just getting the job done by any means so I don't need to dig in the soil with my hands any longer. Summation, always look at the long term cost of an item, your enjoyment of that item, and any extra benefit from the cost of a purchase such as increased yields, time saving, continuation of gardening when you might otherwise have to stop due to age/illness, etc. It is Christmas time, shouldn't you be treating yourself to something special?