Ch. 9 POULTRY TESTERS *** New Thread***

Discussion in 'Testers' started by Lisa A, Oct 5, 2003.

  1. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

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    I want to comment on blhmabbott's 2 person killing-chicken
    method; this is what we have been doing (except we just hang
    head down rather than swing by the feet). I also give the
    chicken a close trim on the neck feathers (while Jay holds it
    upside down by the feet); we had a rooster once with
    beautiful, thick feathers along the neck, and the axe didn't
    do a clean job :-( so now they get trimmed.

    Lisa A
     
  2. blhmabbott

    blhmabbott We're gettin' there!

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    Carla,
    I've PM'd you with the other two choices I've made plus some other info.
    Heather
     

  3. mysticokra

    mysticokra Well-Known Member

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    Carla,

    I know that many links have the shelf life of a fruit fly, but I think the following are at sites that should be here for awhile. It would be really handy to have a section of each page dedicated to a "link box".

    For poultry I recommend ATTRA's article on how to slaughter chickens. See http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/poultryprocess.pdf

    For a "pastured poultry" discussion see ATTRA's http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/pasturedpoultry.pdf
     
  4. blhmabbott

    blhmabbott We're gettin' there!

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    Hi all: Can ya'll handle another newbie? :D I'd like to sign up for the Poultry chapter. Do I use the 9th edition or wait for Carla to send me the copy from the 10th edition? Thanks!
    Heather
     
  5. grannyjenny

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    just testing...after not being able to get on the website for quite some time...if this works, I will post a gob of stuff I have been writing down tommoorrow or Monday. (it is 1:00 am now...and I really HAVE to get some sleep) I hope this works..and sorry I havn't been able to post lately!!
     
  6. Carla Emery

    Carla Emery In Remembrance

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    Congratulations on saving the chick's life, Lisa A. :D The best chicken moms are ones who were raised by a chicken mom. Ones that come from hatcheries may have instincts, but they have zero experience.

    Marchwind, I'm missing the News. How about a PM?

    Narita, do PM me and let me know how your husband is.
     
  7. Lisa A

    Lisa A Well-Known Member

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    We had an egg actually hatch from under one of our broody
    hens! By the time we found it was dried off and lurking under
    Mom.

    The hen, however, continued to sit. Anything that hatched
    was dead (we removed three damp bodies and one egg with
    a hole). By the second day the chick was too weak to stand.
    (since it was fluffy when we found it, it might have been three
    days old by that point)

    We had to take the chick in the house and force feed and
    beak dip - it wouldn't take food or water on its own for a
    couple more days, even when it could stand again, it didn't
    seem to know how to peck. Force fed by holding the little
    beak open and pushing bits of food in (then pat on the back
    to make sure it swallows and doesn't choke), and dipped the
    beak in water with electolytes (over and over).
    Amazingly, this worked, and the chick is doing fine.

    I thought all hens were great mothers... and it's so hot and
    dry that I don't think the chick would have made it for
    another day. The hen sat for another day and a half before
    we took away the rest of the eggs and dumped her out.

    I think humidity may have been an issue, or too much heat
    (it was around 100° that weekend, presumably hotter under
    a hen). I don't know why the other chicks hatched but didn't
    make it.

    In the humidity assistance section (p22 10th) it says
    something about keeping the earth between the turfs damp
    which makes no sense to me.

    The hen also had mites, don't know what kind... tiny, barely
    visible black things. they got on us every time we reached
    into the nest box, they were crawling all around the box on
    the wood. I checked a couple of hens at random and didn't
    see any signs, and the chick doesn't seem to have any. I
    slapped a bunch of hens with diatomacous earth and dusted
    some in the box... I checked the nest box a few days later
    and can't see any on the box.

    At about one week old we happened to toss an earwig in the
    box and the chick was thrilled, and shook it and ate it with
    gusto. Also likes kale aphids and cucumber beetles. I do
    give it grit but still I'm amazed how well it's handling bugs.
    Lonely, though - the peeping drives us crazy sometimes.

    Lisa A
     
  8. Hank - Narita

    Hank - Narita Well-Known Member

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    Our chickens are doing great. They are so fun. We pick vegies and give them household scraps. They are laying between 6 and 8 eggs a day (9 hens). We sell eggs as we can't use that many. We clean out the pen with a rake. As we are in the hot desert, we water down their pen every day. I feed them my garden insects, half eaten vegies, etc. We have barred rocks and highly recommend them. Privett Hatchery in NM is where we purchased them and are very happy with them.
     
  9. Marchwind

    Marchwind Fiber Arts forum Mod. Supporter

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    Thanks for that update on your chickens! That is a nice idea to update on how everyone is doing!

    My chickens are doing really well! I have no idea where they are laying their eggs though :x That is one of the down sides of free range! Lately I have had a fox, I think, come and help him/herself to some of the chickens. It has saved me the work of having to do in one of my roos :D He would have been a tough old bird anyway!

    I rearranged the coop yesterday. Put in some nest boxes, and moved the roosts. Now the girls are too scared to go in at night cause things are different. So strange! I got them all rounded up and in last night and left them in for awhile this morning. I had one of them checking out the new nest boxes too! It isn't dark yet but they are still milling around outside the coop. You would think I moved the whole coop and gave them a new house, sheesh! They will get it all figured out in a day or so I'm not too worried!

    My DS#2 came up with an idea for the nest boxes so we tried it. I was putting up two shelves wide enought to sit orange creats, dish pans, 5 gallon buckets on for nest boxes. One set of brackets my son wanted to use had holders for a dowel to hook onto. He thought it would amke a good roost infront of the nest boxes. In practice it didn't work as the shelf was too wide and covered the roost. Then he had a thought! The bracket is a metal L-shaped bracket with another support so it is actually shaped like a right triangle. He put the shelf through the triangle so it was resting on the slanted side of the triangle. The shelf was at an angle to the wall with the roost infront of it. At first I thought no way that's dumb! Then I though about it and through it might actually be brilliant :D I filled the trough (the board at the angle to the wall) with hay. I fugure the hens can either sit on the roost or in the trough and lay eggs. Seems like it could work and the eggs would be really accessible. I'll let you know how it works!

    So with the new set up in the coop I have all the nest boxes and the roosts in the back of the coop (old barn). There is a makeshift wall with a door that seperates the front from the back. So I figure the chieckens with hang out in the back on the roosts at night. The ducks and geese will hang out in front. I can close the door and the chickens will be fine there during the day while I am at work and I"ll have the eggs no problem. Once the snow flys I can let them out again! The fox only sems to come around in the spring through summer months. Family time I guess!
     
  10. Marchwind

    Marchwind Fiber Arts forum Mod. Supporter

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    Heather don't apologize for repeat testing that is a plus to all of us.

    For catching chickens during the day time we have great success using a LARGE landing net. Sometimes you can catch more than one at a time :D
     
  11. blhmabbott

    blhmabbott We're gettin' there!

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    9th Edition: Freezing Whole Eggs
    I've looked through this entire forum and haven't found where this has been tested yet, but if it has I apologize for posting repeat information.

    My Barred Rocks and Dominickers (sp?) have just started laying about 3 weeks ago and are already producing enough eggs to preserve :D . I have about 14 hens and 12 roos left (we sent 8 roos to the freezer a couple weeks ago and will send another 9 or 10 next week). I'm getting on average of 10 eggs a day. One day we found 18...assuming we missed a few from the night before. Anyway, I chose the above way of preserving them and have found that it works very well. I was wondering what the addition of salt to the eggs is for though. Does it help preserve them or just for taste? I do not cook with salt, except for a very few exceptions in canning. If I could leave the salt out and have them last the same amount of time in the freezer, that would be wonderful! Guess I could test this, but do not really want to take the chance of harming the eggs...I'm so proud of my chickens :D .
    Heather
     
  12. Carla Emery

    Carla Emery In Remembrance

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    Hi Heather! Welcome to TESTERS!!! :D I will immediately put you on the list for a copy of the 10th edition Poultry Chapter. Please PM or e-mail me your snail mail addy and phone number. And do be thinking about which other two 10th chapters you want. In the meantime (sometimes I'm slooooow :oops: ), it's fine to work out of the 9th edition. When you have the 10th, you'll have some recipes that aren't in the 9th but, actually, most of them are the same. Our Fearless Leader of the Poultry people, Marchwind, has made a list of all the 9th edition and new 10th edition recipes left to be tested. And it doesn't hurt a bit if one gets tested more than once--gives me another opinion to weigh in!
    Gratefully,
    Carla
     
  13. mysticokra

    mysticokra Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone ever tried building the hen house and/or nesting boxes out of cedar? Would that add any benefit to controling mites or fleas and would the hens stay in such a place?
     
  14. Marchwind

    Marchwind Fiber Arts forum Mod. Supporter

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    This is the new thread for all poultry testers as of May 4th, 2003!! PLEASE post HERE on this thread.



    10th Edition Recipes that need testing

    Chicken

    Eggs

    Meringue

    Bud Jones Breakfast

    Shirred eggs 4

    Deviled eggs 5

    Custard Pie

    Basic Custard Pie

    Huevos Rancheros

    Dumpling Soup

    Instant breakfast 4

    Quick Eggy Ice Cream

    Dyes

    Onion Skin Package 5

    Dandelion and Pine Needle Eggs
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    Spiced Pickled Eggs

    Clove Pickled Eggs

    Beet Red Eggs

    Soy Eggs

    Dilly Eggs

    Freezing Whites and Yolks Seperately

    Modern Home Dried Eggs ?

    Lime/Salt Preserved Eggs

    Tropical Salt Solution

    Waterglass Method

    Mineral Oil Eggs
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    Fried Livers and Hearts

    Plain Pate

    Gourmet Seasoned Pate

    Chicken-Foot Stock or Soup

    Barb-B-Qued Bird 4

    Halved Broiler

    Quartered Bird

    Canned Giblets and Broth

    Curried Chicken

    Hungarian Paprika Chicken

    Chinese Sweet/Sour Chicken

    "Cream" of Chicken Soup 2

    Chicken, Wheat, Veggie Stew

    Chicken and Dressing

    Ivey's Chicken Loaf

    Gertrude's Chicken Spread

    Feather Stuffed Clothing

    Old-Time Quill Pens

    Turkeys


    Canned Turkey, Rabbit, Small Game or Poultry

    Turkey Broiler

    Pan-Fried Turkey

    Leftover Turkey and Rice

    Ducks


    Garden-Stuffed Ducks

    Basic Roast Duck

    Roast Duck with Orange Juice

    Fried Duck

    Geese


    Trussing a Goose

    Testing a Bird for Doneness

    Braised Gosling

    Warmed-over Goose in Gravy

    Potato-Stuffed Goose

    Goose Stuffed with Sauerkraut

    Prune-Apple Stuffed Goose

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    Broiled Samll Bird

    Roasted Samll Bird

    Pigeon and Squab Recipes


    Jellied Pigeon

    Roasted Pigeon

    Peas 'n Pigeon

    Brioled Squab

    Pigeon Roasted in Grape Leaves

    Pigeon Pot Pie

    Roasted Squab

    Elegant Pigeon

    Baked Pigeon

    Squab and Rice Soup
     
  15. DW

    DW plains of Colorado Supporter

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    I HAD to play in the egg dye section for Easter!!!!!!!!Dorothy

    p. 656
    Homemade E.E. dyes #5
    onion skin #5 onion skins one of my favorites
    food coloring & vinegar #5
    precooked dyes #5
    flower pattern eggs #5 we only had a couple flowers here in Colo. but I did use the flower from my shamrock plant & then we cut some designs from wax paper...that was cool.

    Here are some other natural combos/info. to cook the dye first use 1qt. water w/2 TBL white vinegar.

    4Tbl. tumeric w/water vinegar combo. above = yellow
    you can use coffee, red cabbage=blue, beets, onion skins. Instead of tying with string use various widths of rubberbands.
     
  16. BCR

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    Chicken Diet Options
    page 630, 9th Edition

    I disagree greatly with the fact that grit is not needed right away. Chick grit sprinkled on the feed, as you would salt your own food, provides the right amount for young chicks with no real danger of over-gorging on grit. Later on you can provide it free choice. Pasting up of vents can cause loss of life quickly and unnecessarily. Should a chick paste up from lack of grit, offer grit of course, but gently clean its bum with a warm damp cloth. Work the dried poop off gently. Then use an over the counter antibiotic cream on the vent for protection of the sore place.

    Anne
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  17. blhmabbott

    blhmabbott We're gettin' there!

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    though I do most of the butchering at our house. my loving wife, Heather knows just about as much as i do when it comes to the cutting up of the animals.
    and yes it was me who posted last night.
    thanks,
    Brett
     
  18. beulahland

    beulahland Active Member

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    9th ed. pg. 660 -
    to get the neck and head into the right position and keep it there - we put two long nails in the chopping block (aka tree stump) a little smaller than the wideth of the chicken's head. Place the head infront of the nails and pull the body back. This stretches out the neck and holds the chicken in place. Works good with rabbits, too, only replace the nails for the size of the rabbit head.
    Debbie
     
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    9th ed. pg. 660 - We've tried most all of the ways of killing the chickens. This one is time consuming when doing more than a couple of birds but works in a pinch.
    Debbie
     
  20. beulahland

    beulahland Active Member

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    We really did not like doing this one and didn't find it any easier to remove the feathers.
    Debbie