Bull calf thinking about "it"

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  1. BJ

    BJ Well-Known Member

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    We have a 7mo old red poll bull that we bought hoping to winter and then turn out with our cows next spring. We're surpised to find him, however, very interested in our cows now! Although he is too small right now to reach the adult cows....he is trying. Is this little guy fertile...should he "connect"? We had hoped to pasture him with the cows this winter so we only had to heat one water tank. Now we're wondering if he needs to be moved far from the scent of the cows who are coming in heat after calving. We also don't want him to injure himself. Our other thought is to sell him and rent a bull next spring. Tell this newbie cow person how best to handle this situation. Seems like this cow raising doesn't always go according to plan. :(
     
  2. herefordman

    herefordman Well-Known Member

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    If the timing is imprtant to you he should probably be moved on somewhere else, if not then leave him there he'll do his job, although this early I doubt he's doing much at any rate.
    Mounting is common amongst all cows and steers, and heifers alike, the one he's trying to mount is probably in heat, and although he can't do much, he's going to try anyways !!!
    If he's pastured seperate he'll break everything and anything to get to them anyways.
    Good luck !!!
     

  3. tinknal

    tinknal Well-Known Member Supporter

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    None of your cows should come into heat until at least 45 days after calving, so you don't need to worry about it until then.
     
  4. pygmywombat

    pygmywombat Well-Known Member

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    "None of your cows should come into heat until at least 45 days after calving, so you don't need to worry about it until then."

    Actually, a cow can come into heat as little as two weeks post calving (normally a cleaning out heat) and some will start cycling regularly at 3 weeks post calving and can breed back then.

    Claire
     
  5. opus

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    Yes..."he' is able....get him out of there. And no, he isnt too small. Just when you think that, someone hands him a milk stool. Where there is a will there is a way. I have seen calves breed cows before.
     
  6. dosthouhavemilk

    dosthouhavemilk Well-Known Member Supporter

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    El Tigre settled half of our herd starting at around 9 months of age. We weren't concerned that he was so interested in the mature cows, he was too young right? We have 12 daughters (including a set of twins) to prove otherwise. He was half Jersey and half Norwegian Red, so he was taller than a purebred Jersey is at that age. Jason, who is three quarter Jersey, one quarter Norwegian Red is around 11 months old right now and currently trying and connecting on many of the girls. He insisted on being with them earlier but he did not settle anything that we know of. He is a bit shorter than El Tigre was.
    If timing is important to you, you need to seperate him from the girls. Keep him as far away as possible. Bulls can smell heats from a long distance.

    Cows can certainly start cycling earlier than 45 days. Wont was in standing heat just 10 days after she calved. Luckily she will not be hard to catch in heat. :haha:
     
  7. BJ

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    Well..thanks for all the info. Sounds like we either better move the bull down the road or sell him and buy one in the spring. We want to get these girls all to calve closer together. Previous owner just left the bull in year around..and never knew exactly when to expect calf. Our plan was to breed in the spring...but having a young bull around is complicating that idea. And to top it off...all 6 of our new calves are bulls!!!! Looks like an uphill battle to me..that is trying to keep these cows open till spring. :waa: