Both colors are a single cream dilution but on different base colors- buckskin is cream on bay, and palomino is cream on chestnut. So, the horse in question couldn't have been born one and turned into the other.Is this the norm? Is so, what is the consenus on advertising or do experienced horse people know that the color is only a best guess?
Smoky buckskin (I call it smutty) could make a horse look brown, but not gold. Smutty palomino just takes the shine off the gold to me, usually it's just the base of the tail is darker.How would the smokey gene fit in? Could you have a smokey buckskin? I don't remember if that is a different sort of dilution, but could it turn the black points very light grey and be confusing?
Ok, I did some research, no, the smoky gene makes the buckskin on a bay. What I was thinking of is the silver dapple that lightens the black points. It is common in Rocky Mountian Horses, for instance. This site shows a picture of a Silver Dapple buckskin if you scroll down a bit.
That might be a possibility - it would be born looking buckskin, then the black points wash out. Or maybe someone was just confused by the foal color, certainly they seem to be pretty different from the adult colors sometimes!
Most, if not all, foals look different when they've shed their foal coat.Yes, I figured that... it could have been a palomino that looked dark when it was born, right?
I was looking at the color charts and the silver dapple is another can of worms, so was wondering if that was a possibility. Maybe our silver dapple breeder will help us out there! Sharon, what do you think?
Again, a horse cannot be born chestnut and turn bay. There are only two different colors, red and black. Chestnut is red based, and bay is black based. The bay roan may have had very light black points, mane, and tail but he/she was born bay. Greys are always born their base color, and then go grey. It often starts as a grey circle around their eyes, and can look pretty funny for a while.I almost never call a color until they shed out their foal coat, with exception of a bay. I have a grey filly right now that was chestnut at birth, and a yearling bay roan that was a chestnut when born. My pretty bay TB/Friesian filly was solid black until this summer then colored out a dark bay (dangit!). I wait to register until shortly before they turn 6 months so I have some sort of color I can fairly solidly call them
But I agree, a buckskin doesn't turn into a palomino!
I had to go back to my pics of my bay roan, and myAgain, a horse cannot be born chestnut and turn bay. There are only two different colors, red and black. Chestnut is red based, and bay is black based. The bay roan may have had very light black points, mane, and tail but he/she was born bay. Greys are always born their base color, and then go grey. It often starts as a grey circle around their eyes, and can look pretty funny for a while.
I agree that it's much better to wait until they shed out the foal coat to determine color.