Bee-Vac Idea...

Discussion in 'Beekeeping' started by justgojumpit, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. justgojumpit

    justgojumpit Well-Known Member

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    I've been playing around with an idea for making a bee vac out of a five gallon plastic bucket. My idea is to go to staples and buy one of those mesh trash cans. Line this with window screening or small sized hardware cloth. Drill holes in the side of the five gallon bucket to put support rods through for the trash bin to sit on. The rods should be high enough that the trash bin is snugly wedged between the rests and the lid of the bucket, when closed. Now, drill a hole in the top of the bucket and melt your hose to the lid with a blow torch. Do the same near the bottom of the bucket, below the trash bin (may need to be a bucket larger than 5 gal depending on the size of the trash bin). The hose at the bottom will connect to a shop vac. With the large surface area for air to pass through in the "bee cage," I don't think bees will get squished agains the sides of the trash bin. My question is, where to the bees get quished if they do, in the container or in the hose they come in through? If the answer was the hose, I would have to drill holes in the side of the bucket to reduce the force of the pull though the hose.

    Any suggestions before I experiment this spring and possibly kill some bees?

    I am thinking of using the bee vac when harvesting honey instead of blowing the bees out of the supers to reduce the numbers of lost bees (mainly nurse bees who have not yet taken orientation flights -- and who are also the ones who actually to the packing of honey into the supers and the capping/wax secretion, etc.

    I am also thinking of making a square funnel that will rest in a super. The funnel will have the same width bottom opening as the hole in a bee package, and I will have a stack as follows: two empty deeps, the funnel with bee cage at bottom, an empty shallow (so the bees don't zing off the side of the funnel!), and then the super I will be extracting. I will then blow the bees down through the funnel and into the cage to be returned to their hive, or to use for a split (hmmm just give them a frame of eggs....). This will eliminate the issue of the air being thick with bees while I rob honey. Besides, who needs overcrowded hives right after the honey flow is over? We all know this leads to swarming. Possibilities abound...

    I should get some interesting responses here!

    Thanks everyone,

    justgojumpit
     
  2. Timber

    Timber Well-Known Member

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    J you can vary the motor speed electrically make or buy a speed control for your shop-vac. What you need to know is the amps it's pulling to get the proper size of controller. Or you can plumb a tee fitting on the vacuum hose connector. Add a valve open to atmosphere, you should be able to offset the vacuum by opening the valve to air.
    Going to use this in your top bar hive?

    Just can't figure why the need to vac or blow bees off of supers. I think it's just too hard on the bees.

    Timber
     

  3. justgojumpit

    justgojumpit Well-Known Member

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    blowing bees is done quite commonly in harvesting honey with commercial operations. I am just trying to find a way to make splits of bees at the same time that I harvest honey. I may just end up making shook swarms from the bees in the honey supers and then just blowing off the few bees that may remain. The nice thing about blowing is that you can harvest a whole super of honey without removing any frames and breaking open cells of honey. Leaks make more of a mess than is needed. One more thing I am thinking of is fitting a shallow super with window screen over the top, putting a deep over this, and then blowing the bees down onto the window screen. After harvesting from each hive, I can then decide how to transfer the bees from the screen into a nuc.

    justgojumpit