Bee-Sting or Bottlejaw

Discussion in 'Goats' started by bpawb, May 17, 2012.

  1. bpawb

    bpawb Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday our FF's jaw was swollen ...

    one of the kids have recently been stung by bees ...

    The FF seems fine other than the swelling ...

    Last night the swelling was a good bit more than this morning ...

    We wormed her w/ cydectin the day she kidded and 10 days later, at 1cc per 22 lbs

    We called a vet and they can not check for liver flukes without sending it off.

    I may go get some valbazen amd give it at 1cc per 10 lbs?


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  2. mpete

    mpete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    give her some benedryl to see if that helps. Have you run a fecal?
     

  3. chewie

    chewie Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'd like to know if you figure this out, neigbhors goat looks like this. has a thicker throat area and another lump down a few inches. doesn't look at all like a cl lump, looks like strangles in a horse. odd
     
  4. yarrow

    yarrow Ages Ago Acres Nubians Supporter

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    wow... that's one is a hard call...it could be worms.. but that could also be swelling from a sting or bite.. I'd probably treat for both (we have had FOUR copperhead bites already this spring... Amelia got hit on the jaw, close to her mouth... two full on fang punctures, the whole side of her head was swollen... Tessie got bitten (one deep fang mark, one glancing one.. it looked like it slide more then stabbed).. right behind the bone on her eye ridge. She was so swollen on that side she walked off into mid-air trying to get off the milk stand!!!.. Victor & Gim-me both got struck in the neck.. Victor got it the worst. We were lucky it was him and not one of the little girls.. He is a big guy.. lots of swelling, had to take off his collar/ Gim-me got a side angled strike.. some venom, not a full hit.. ALL these bites are happening after they go into the doe barn after evening milk ... we are finding them like this at morning milking... can't find the stinking snake (snakes??) all the bites look exactly the same distance between fang marks... they have a grassy area behind the barn.. lined with cattle panel. I think it's getting them while they have their heads out of the fence back there, eating weeds... I keep hoping we either find the snake or he gets his fill of Nubian......

    good luck with you girl (I've treated all the snake bites with banamine & 5 cc's of liquid benadryl

    susie, mo ozarks
     
  5. Alice In TX/MO

    Alice In TX/MO More dharma, less drama. Supporter

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    bpawb Well-Known Member

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    Question ... I now have on hand valbazen and cydectin

    Should I worm just the one doe? ... Or ... the whole herd, including the kids? ... They all currently run together.
     
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  7. Alice In TX/MO

    Alice In TX/MO More dharma, less drama. Supporter

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  8. bpawb

    bpawb Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the chart

    Her eyelids are pretty pale arn't they

    I gave her about 12cc valbazen (thats the first time i've used valbazen)

    I'm wondering if I should also worm her w/ cydectin also? ( to cover anything the valbazen dosen't cover)
     
  9. bpawb

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    also Should I give red-cell?
     
  10. mpete

    mpete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Red cell is a good idea.
     
  11. bpawb

    bpawb Well-Known Member

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    Do you know the dosage for red cell?
     
  12. The Tin Mom

    The Tin Mom Hate Oz. Took the shoes. Supporter

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    WOW! Great link, again Alice. Thanks! This is the best chart I have seen on this.
     
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    Alice, God bless you for educating us!! Because of that link I realized I needed to treat one of my does tonight. THANK YOU!!!
     
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    I agree, Thanks Alice for the link!! I saved it for future use!