I remember as a child, my father always planted what he called Horticulture (SP? :shrug: ) beans. I remember them well, because one of my jobs as a pint sized pint was to shell the things. I remember exactly what they look like. cream with red stripes (some were almost all red). My husband who is from the southwest, and has never gardened befor in his life swears that these are pinto beans. I think they are different. So question is. are Horticulture beans and pinto beans one and the same?