It's been a banner year here in SW Oregon for apples. We literally have a small hill of them stacked. Mainly it's for the stock but we intend to put up several carboies of cider and vinegar. In the past we have painstakingly ground for the pulp in our champion juicer and pressed it in the cider press. That isn't going to work this year for our big apple cider plans. I know many use sink type garbage disposal units to grind but I'm looking for quick and easy plans for a hand crank model. I found one using google and another in Build it better... (Rodale) Any ideas out there?