Anyone homesteading in N.Cal in the trees?Need Opinions.

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  1. mightybooboo

    mightybooboo Well-Known Member

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    Well,due to an unforseen circumstance we apparently are trapped here for a couple years minimum,oh joy!Cant believe this has happened,we were set to leave this summer!Anywho.....Anyone in the northern area homesteading?.We want about 20 acres,doesnt need home or power and has to be within hours drive of 2-3 hospitals.Maybe Eureka or Humbolt county,something like that?Sure liked the Crescent city area but no jobs.Any hospitals maybe 50-75 miles inland?
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  2. bearkiller

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    well Boooooooo,

    If you want to look in Humboldt County about 20 minutes south of Eureka I would strongly recommend checking out the Carlotta area. I think it is a homesteaders dream for location. It is in a very mild climate zone that is great for growing most anything. The big problem with the coast areas is the eternal afternoon winds and the summer lack of heat. Carlotta is hidden a bit by hills so the afternoon winds are less of a problem and a bit inland so a little more summer heat. If I was starting over (Lord, protect me from that particular foolishness again) that is where I would start. Count on local support and friendship for newbies and homesteaders...you'll find a bunch in the area.

    A bit more exposed but slightly inland and on 4 lane freeway is Blue Lake...about 6 miles from Arcata and hospitals. Then there is Fieldbrook where I started in the '60's. Protected even more than Carlotta and fine homesteading material there. Just a bit further north and slightly less protected is Freshwater.

    On the other hand, Weaverville has a hospital so you can consider Douglas City to nearly anywhere in the Trinity River Canyon...Del Mar to Junction City. Hayfork is about 45 minutes from Weaver and much more wide open...its a very nice valley. If you fly they have a 4700 foot county airport. Hayfork will give you four seasons unlike the coast and a dryer climate. Winters often see snow, but not always, summers are hot and dry. Lots of cattle/sheep country but a bit limited for orchards and gardening may require some protections for frost. Still, not a bad place by any means.

    Also consider Willow Creek. Fine climate, lots of small parcels, lots of old retirees so no doubt a hopital. And only an hour from Arcata with its three hospitals or an hour to Weavervilles hospital.

    If you want it wetter, but still hot summers look up in Shasta/Siskiyou Counties like around Jones Fort. They are quite a bit wetter than Trinity which has its benefits. Can't speak to the issue of hospitals up that way though.

    You likely know already that Cape Mendocino is the break off point that divides the "California" weather from the "Pacific NorthWest" weather. This means we can count on longer cooler springs than further south, but still dryer than further north. Where I am in Tinity we see about 48 inches of rain a year and still have water shortages in summer. West of Carlotta and a little south they see 12 FEET of rain in a season. There are NO flat bottomlands...they are all creekbeds.

    One other tip is that the Sisters of Mercy hospital in Redding operates a membership air ambulance service. Those of us out here right next to nowhere are all members. Call in an emergency and if a member you get transported anywhere within 600 miles for nearly nothing. On the other hand, Redding is the pitts of hell in the summer and I usually go near the place only at night. Love watching all those cows hiding under the trees at 0600 hours. Do they ever mooove???

    I may be the only homesteader up this way that subscribes to Countryside and posts on this board. I know there are others, but likely very quiet about it. You gonna come be my neighbor?????

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  3. mightybooboo

    mightybooboo Well-Known Member

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    Bearkiller,,exactly what I needed to know.Yes,we may have no choice but to remain in Ca,if thats the case it sure isnt going to be smogville.Have to admit,the northern coastal area is a beautiful place if you dont mind some rain/or wind.Really enjoyed our stay on the Smith River/Redwood forest area :worship: .Thanks for the reply,Im getting my maps out!
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  4. Brad

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    Hey Bearkiller, thanks for the informative post!

    How is Humbolt county on building restrictions do you know? Good water sources up there? Thanks! Brad
     
  5. Hank - Narita

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    You sure received lots of good info. We used to live in Ft. Dick, just a 3 wood away from Hwy 101. Too much rain for me and the other times were foggy or cold and damp. Son in law lives in Lewiston. His relatives live in Redding and sister in law is moving from CC. Pretty country but expensive now. We (I) prefer AZ but good luck with your move.
     
  6. Gayle in LA

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    Hey MightyBooBoo, are we neighbors??
    I'm in the San Fernando Valley, that little spot of Hell ( feeling p---y due to the horrible heat this year).
     
  7. bearkiller

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    Ahhhh! Yes, indeed! The Building Inspection Division. So near and dear to my heart!

    Well, folks, simply put, Humboldt County is pretty well all inclusive in terms of get that permit or risk a red tag and destruction. Reason, the county is wealthy enough to push enforcement figuring that the tax base will only increase by forcing you to meet code. How right they are! I built three homes up in McKinleyville when the inspector was brand new. I mean so new I was his first inspection. Having dealt with such people for many years I made clear to him that I always do good work and expected no problems. And, if he wanted me to do something other than I had done just let me know what and why and he would get it. The bottom line was we caught each other in a few minor code "problems" and quickly came to terms about he would tell me what he wanted and then go away. He simply trusted me to do what I said I would.

    The worst code violations were due to his oversight and my lack of knowledge about parts of the plumbing codes. He finally caught the problem at final. Instead of making me do some serious tearout and replacements, he simply told me what and why and then signed it off and let it go. Why not? He can't be sued anyway!

    Frankly I doubt you could get far in avoiding the inspectors in Humboldt. And I, personally, would not try because I know them well enough.

    Also, if near the ocean you have to deal with the Coastal Commission. THAT can be far more "fun" than the Building Inspector. Talk about a maze of stupid Left Wing nonsense trash steal your property laws, that is it. Stay inland far enough!

    Water is not a problem in Humboldt County. After all we get lotsa rain and no summer heat. Water quality is pretty good, too. Back in the '60's when on my first homestead our water well was 22 feet deep and the water level was at 10 feet. Walk out to the back part of the 54 acres and the water was at 6 feet. I set up a pitcher pump for horse water. This was in Fieldbrook where we do get some summer heat, though nothing like inland.

    Boo and Brad, both, come on up behind the Redwood Curtain. Not many better places in all the USA for a great place to live. I am in Trinity...over Lord Ellis summit and into the heat. I can grow more variety than under the fog bank. But I would sure love to have some more neighbors.

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  8. bearkiller

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    Gayle,

    I meant to ask. Are you anywhere near the fires??? Sure hope not!

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  9. mightybooboo

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    DANGED AOL<just wiped my whole reply.Fires 30 miles south so far,our fear is fires at base of mountain climbing up,or worse,being set up here,the arsonists are salivating to kill and destroy us all,MONSTERS indeed.Raw land up your way?,Gayle we are down by San bernardino way,North into the Big Bear mountains.
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  10. mightybooboo

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    Forest is an overgrown tinder box.Dont know why my replies arent taking?
     
  11. kaidangku

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    have you looked at the sierra nevada's at all? i'm going to be moving out to either calaveras or tuolumne county in about a year.
     
  12. Brad

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    "Boo and Brad, both, come on up behind the Redwood Curtain. Not many better places in all the USA for a great place to live. I am in Trinity...over Lord Ellis summit and into the heat. I can grow more variety than under the fog bank. But I would sure love to have some more neighbors."


    Man, Bearkiller, The area up there is huge! I couldn't even find the town of Trinity on my road atlas! I think I'd like to take a trip up there and look around.

    Oh, about the building department. I'm not interested in hiding out from them, I know there is no future doing that. I was just curious if getting a building permit was considered a reasonable request in Humboly county. As you know, and like you mentioned with the coastal commission, in some places a request for a permit is considered an act of war!! ;)
     
  13. mightybooboo

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    Has to have a few hospitals within reasonable range,thats a deal killer if not.
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  14. bearkiller

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    Brad,

    No problem with building permits if you run the numbers. Biggest hassle is Coastal. Likewise Trinity County on permits. The vermin LOVE to take your money.

    Trinity is the county. County seat is Weaverville...too many lawyers there so it's known far and wide as Weaselville. Douglas City is east of Weaver; over Berry Summit come back down to the Trinity River find Junction City on west to Willow Creek in Humboldt County. On the maps this is on state highway 299. Hayfork is on state hiway 3. Hayfork is on all the maps and is a large inland valley and town. Lord! They just put sewers and sidewalks in the west half...when??? for the east??? No doubt even I am paying for them!

    Trinity is the "heart of the Emerald Triangle" so be aware the CAMP fuzz love to fly their hueys at treetop level and take lots of pictures. And when you get fed up with the summer heat, relief is spelled HUMBOLDT COAST! I get over to go fishing for smelt in the summers. Hand dip nets can pick up a 5 gallon bucket in a few minutes when they are running.

    Kaidangku,

    Calaveras and Tuolome are too far south. Winter weather becomes more dicey the farther south you go and that means summer water can be problematic. Also more population pressure! Same father north until you get closer to Red Bluff and Redding in the valley. But I don't know much about the northern Sierra counties. Two things I LOVE about Trinity County are 1. No stop lights in the entire county. and 2. second smallest population in a county in the Peoples' Republic. For us, a traffic jam means coming up behind two guys that have stopped in the road to talk. Gotta love that!!!!

    And to all, yes there is still lots of undeveloped land available up this way, even 80 acres (and probably the 40 on the other side) right next door to me. Like anywhere, the closer to the cities the more it costs. I looked at a lot of it in the '80's when first looking; none recently.

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  15. kathy H

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    Hey Bear here in Mariposa county we have no stop lights and no trafic[ except on weekends when tour buses come through].
     
  16. bearkiller

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    Kathy H,

    GOOD, I'm glad to hear that. And greetings neighbor...even if you are too far away! Just so I know, who is driving those tour busses??? Look out!

    Only bus service I have to deal with is the 10 passenger Trinity Bus Service between Weaselville and Hayfork. : > ) I think it runs two round trips a day.

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  17. Brad

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    Bearkiller, I'll send you a PM. Thanks for the info.
     
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    I'm in tears here! :waa:

    I'm putting my place on the market next week in preparation to make a move to CA. My kids have settled there, and I am now retired. BUT, they live in San Diego and Riverside counties! :no: In order to be near them, I am looking at some very expensive turf. The fires and 100* temperatures aren't very inviting either.

    I've traveled as far north as Sacramento and Lake Tahoe and had looked into Trinity county at one time.It seems so far from the kids that I might as well stay here in God's country. Bearkiller, you make it sound like a wonderful place to live and homestead. :)
     
  19. mightybooboo

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    I can tell you 15 miles inland(Hiouchi) from the very most northwest coast(Crescent City) is like a rainforest,redwoods,ferns,and does it ever rain!Hiouchi is just outside the fog belt.BEAUTIFUL AREA!And you can shop in Oregon tax free.But it rains sideways in the winter,really comes down.If I could find work there i would move in a heartbeat.Gorgeous inland and coastal area.But good paying jobs are hard to find.
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  20. kaidangku

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    i can think of a couple off the top of my head.