Another decision...

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  1. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    Well, by an extreme stroke of luck on Thursday I decided to drop by the casino and play in a Poker tournament after work. I am a tournament player but only play a few times a year. My $55 got me my stack of fake chips to see if I could take everyone elses from them and guess what? I did!!! :eek: So now I am $2000 richer than I was a week ago. ;-) Nice New Years gift! To bad it wasn't in time for the House of Tomorrow, but I want the poker players to have contributed to something cool for my homestead. I am leaning toward a Quonset hut type of greenhouse like the ones in Farm Tek. They work well out here in this milder climate and I have wanted to start a nursery business.


    What do you all think? Do you have suggestions on what type of greenhouse is best - is the best deal through Farm Tek? Is there something else I should be thinking about for my place? I am thinking I could brood cornish rock chickens on the floor of it with plants on benches....

    Cool problem, huh? :D
     
  2. Blu3duk

    Blu3duk Well-Known Member

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    nice problem, I havent bought from farmtek, however since Ive been getting their catalog and telling folks about them i cant seem to find any better source for hoop houses. They seem to have a pretty decent selection including a complete setup for about $10K for what you want..... so all you need to do is parlay that 2k into another game or three and win again!

    Farmetek did have a nice cold frame a couple years back for $2k delivered that stretched 28 x 98 or so with both ends..... would be nice here in central Idaho for early starts or a big chicken run.

    William
     

  3. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    Well, I am smart enough to take the money and run with a win like that! :haha:

    It's their high tunnel cold frames that I am looking at. Will look at adding heaters and such later if needed. Most people around here find that the tunnel itself is sufficient for growing things most of the year.

    Thanks for the input!
     
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    Please send money to
    Alan Lidbom, 1095......lol

    congrats, Deb!
     
  5. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    HEHE Thanks!

    I don't really know which is more fun, the money or beating out 129 other people including two verbally abusive obnoxious loud drunks at the very end or enjoying my new greenhouse!!! Such problems for a girl to have at the start of a new year. :haha:

    I figure my greenhouse will remind me often of that fun experience.
     
  6. 3girls

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    OCB in Portland sells nice hoop houses at reasonable cost and will deliver same to your premises. I had a 30 x 72 foot hoop house in Mount Vernon. They have a catalog and I imagine they are now on the web. I suggest purchasing from as close as possible as the shipping costs are very high. You'll love having this structure.

    www.freeplants.com is the place I went for getting started in the nursery business. I wish you well in your endeavor.
     
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    You might check out Turner Greenhouses. Ask for their catalog and there are some nice options and info there about other equipment they offer for heating or cooling your greenhouse effectively.

    Years ago I bought on with ribbed panels and aluminum frame. I bullt a solid wood floor that drained also, put in a plug in for heat and it's connected also to the outside wood boiler so a pump can operate heat exchange floor heaters. It's about 10 x 12. That would be well within that price range (except for the outdoor wood boiler furace). Later, I added a small greenhous similar in construction from Sears. It was about 6 x 8. I think sears may now have more models that are bigger. Check out their catalogs.

    Rich
     
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  10. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    Thank you for the great information! I will be headed there to check it out for sure! I am also getting the freeplants kit - been thinking about it for a while but this is really going to set me on my way to my own business. Will check out the salad green business also. I have a friend who takes e-mail orders and delivers once or twice a week to an established customer base. That would be an easy business to grow over time I think. I am thinking of running a big batch of laying hens, from chicks, in there the first year and then sell them off at 7-10 each. They would clean up the inside real good and fertilize and till up the soil a little bit to get started. I had heard of those PVC growing pipes too! I am really excited that you could grow oranges in that without heat here!!! I was just hoping for real tomotoes this summer. :haha:

    I might be too busy to try my luck at the casino again - oh well! :haha: :haha:

     
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    We purchased two 26 x 12 x 28 clear span storage buildings from Tek Supply. Both buildings are up and let me tell you that you are in for a real job assembling these things. One building has been up for quite some time and it took three of us two full days of assembly and much sweat putting it together. We have many tools and are quite technical so our know how was not in question. The front panel and back panel are separate from the main cover and it does take a considerable amount of time putting these things up as they are not trimmed to fit. The top then goes over everything and it takes a team of horses to pull it over. They gave us a rollup mechanism for the doors which is virtually useless and we roll up our doors by hand.

    The buildings are used for storage and we are having humidity problems in them. It is so bad when we go in in the morning that it sounds like it is raining. The cardboard boxes we have stored in the buildings had to be covered with plastic sheets to keep them from getting wet. (These buildings are on a dirt floor.)

    One thing I do not like about the buildings and I contacted them was their HUGE advertising sign attached to the outside. It has their toll free number and name in bold letters. My complaint fell on deaf ears. (This sign should have been placed discreetly on the inside or somewhere that it did not affect the appearance of the building.)

    If you buy one of these buildings how are you going to unload it from the 18 wheeler that delivers it to you? It comes in two huge packages and they are heavy. We are fortunate in that we have a skid steer with a fork lift attachment.

    The frame is put together with self tapping screws and I can assure you this takes time and tools.

    The frame and cover is of the highest quality.

    If you have any questions feel free to email me.

    Putting one of these things together is going to take at least three people.

    Jukebox
     
  12. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    Thank you for the heads up! I would have been in a world of hurt when that truck pulled up! I don't mind the water part - it will be a greenhouse.

    Is Tek Supply the same as Farm TeK? I will ask them about the fasteners I got the impression they snap together. I would paint over their big sign!!!

    Thanks again!

    Debbie


     
  13. Blu3duk

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    from another post in this thread OCB Northwest

    and as for farm tek and tek supply i believe both are the same, one is wholesale to resellers and one is more ag oriented.... but the same people..... I found them and got the wholesle info but never used them for supplies...... but the year is new nad who knows what one will do to turn an inky greenstamp.

    William
     
  14. 3girls

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    It took some time for us to put up that greenhouse (hoop house) in WA, and less to put up the Costco garage canopy here in PA. Both are at minimum two person jobs. Start making friends, you'll need 'm. Should be a weekend party for all.

    OBC unloaded their truck in the space most convenient to me and to the driver of the large truck.

    You first have to line up the ground posts very carefully. They are the key. The people who installed my gh used electric drills with the tek screws which worked. The directions sent by these various companies are less than the best, but once you figure out the way to install one arch, the rest was easy. They provide all kinds of fasteners that hold stuff together (ie, the purlins to the arches, etc.) Then pressure treated 2x6's were attached to the bottom (ground) of the arch, and another (not treated) was added just where the arch bent (about 4' up). Wiggle wire was installed on that board and on the end arches. Putting up the plastic was easy. The first layer goes up easily with three people. The second layer was put on by tying a small rock in each of the two leading corners, and ropes attached to the rocks. Since the first layer was there it was slick and easy to pull on the second. The wiggle wire comes in and out so you can anchor the first layer if you need. Try not to. We picked a windless day for this exercise. We built the ends from 2x4's and used polycarbonate sheets to cover. I made double doors on each end that used barn type sliders to open or close. A small tractor was able to get in to fill my raised beds. I opened all the sides and both ends as soon as the last frost date passed. I also made the part above the doors a hinged piece hooked to a small pulley, so I could open and close the area as much or as little as needed for ventilation. I had a frost proof valve installed in one corner for water.

    I made my own roll up sides. The double plastic I got extended from ground to ground with at least 6" to spare. I attached, with duct tape, the double layer to pvc pipes. You may want to do this in sections. The people who bought the place from me did divide the lengths. I then got a bunch of pvc connectors and fashioned a handle to roll up the sides. If anyone really wants to know, pm me with an address and I will show you a sketch. Later, I'll post a picture when my current setup is set up.

    I got my polycarbonate at Steubers in Snohomish. You can also get pots and bales of potting mix there. I use the feed stores to get 50# bags of rock phosphate, alfalfa meal, greensand, kelp meal, soybean meal, fish meal, etc. I used the book by Steve Solomon, Growing Vegetables West of the Cascades as guidance on formulations.

    There is lots more I could write, but will wait for another day.

    PS. I just went to the OBC website and was nearly in tears. Just imagine yourself inside that wonderful space. I grew my greens inside there year round. I never used shade cloth, but could have on the 2-3 90 degree days we'd get. The gh protected the greens from wind and rain and made a super quality product.
     
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    Maybe we'll meet in the WSOP someday. hehehe
     
  16. deberosa

    deberosa SW Virginia Gourd Farmer!

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    Before I got my place I considered giving a shot at one of those Satellites some day. For now just skimming off some of the local money suits me just fine! :)