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Am I paranoid? a quick trip to town this am

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So I get to the grocery store and a young girl about age 10 was sitting on the outdoor taxi bench by herself with no one else nearby...I watched from the truck for a few minutes...no one...customers in and out...no taxi.

So I went in and reported it to the customer service desk and expressed my concern..the old lady was annoyed and asked me if I had spoken to said child...
I did not...I didn't want to scare her or be accused of anything either. I was short with the woman and said "Have someone keep an eye on her PLEASE!"
Got my stuff and left...the girl was gone by that time.

I'm worried as Waterville has the highest sex offender numbers in the state...it ain't funny...and I'd like to slap the parent that left that child unattended:flame:

Am I paranoid?
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no you are not paranoid, wish more people were as concerned as you...we have to protect all our children...
I would have done the same thing. I'm always the mother who stops and watches children who seem to be wandering alone in a store our even outdoors. Some people are very relaxed about letting their kids go places alone, but it scares me to death. It only takes a minute for someone to grab a child, or trick them with a "your mother was in a car accident and I need to take you to her" story.
Are you paranoid?

Your not wrong, so maybe take this story to the local new paper.
Use it as a point to start block watch, or my CCTV programs for your town .
:viking:
The store is not somehow magically obligated to take your worry away by becoming responsible for that child. If you were concerned, then you had the obligation to take action- either waiting there to be there to protect the child or bringing it to the attention of the authorities.
The fact that you called the person at customer service "the old lady" and were annoyed at her for not taking action to resolve your anxiety shows that you were reluctant to do something that you wanted other people even less involved to do- to fix the problem.
Just what did you expect the customer service "old lady" to do that you couldn't do yourself? Should she have made a public announcement over the PA there is an unattended child so please come and get her?
BTW I have become involved in situations similar to this personally.
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Should she have made a public announcement over the PA there is an unattended child so please come and get her?
That's exactly what the old lady should have done. I have heard similar pages over the PA system in malls, grocery stores, and last week, the Salvation Army.
I wouldn't have gotten overly involved... it's a busy place, well lit, and people are around.

If it had been after hours, dark, no people... yeah...

If it had been after hours, dark, no people, and 10 miles out in the country, yes, I'd'a stopped, called the Sheriff, inform him of the situation, and THEN see if there was a problem. (Placing my trouble solving friend real close, in case there was some sort of trap involved...)
If a parent who was shopping reports a lost child, it is usually a big deal to big companies to see if they can find the child. Businesses are becoming seriously short handed, so it will be more of a challenge to handle emergencies.

I am surprised that they weren't willing to send an employee with you to talk to the child.

I understand your reluctance to approach the child. You never know what people will think.
Several years ago I encountered a young (about 8) Asian girl in a big box electronics store, standing alone, crying quietly. After 'shopping' nearby for long enough to see that no one was obviously with her, I asked her if she was lost & she nodded. I led her to the customer service desk, where they made a PA announcement. The father showed up and began scolding the child as if it were all her fault. I left before I said anything, but someone could have taken that child and been gone ....
Is it paranoia if there is a reason?
A few years ago during the Christmas shopping season, my mother and I saw a child in the mall wondering around obviously scared and looking for someone. My mother and I stopped and spoke to the child and we decided that we would help. I sat down with the child on a bench in so no one would think we were taking her and my mother went looking for the mother in the closest store. Within 5 minutes we had the two back together. Thankfully, a happy ending. I don't blame mpillow for not wanting to approach the child alone. She could have been accused of attempted kidnapping or assault or anything and there would only be the child's word and mpillow's word. And I don't blame her for wanting to smack the parent(s) either.

My youngest son is 16 and I'm still concerned about him being by himself. (He doesn't know it though, not cool in his opinion.) You are definitely not paranoid. We "lost" my son (he was 3 at the time) at a softball game for about 10 minutes because I thought my husband had him and he thought I had him. They were the most sickening 10 minutes of my life. Sometimes kids get give you the slip even with the parents best intentions.

Since the child was on that store's property, they could have been held liable if something would have happened to her. Even though it's the parents responsibility. Stranger lawsuits have been filed and stranger ones have been won. The store should have been more concerned.
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Yes,

The odds of a particular child getting taken by a non-relative. Is remote IE it almost never happens. Your tooth brush is more likely to send you into the hospital. Than the girl being in danger.

Welcome to the Hover-Generation.
The difference in the stories later in this thread is that the person who was concerned did something- they sat with the child, talked to the child, took the child to the counter, etc. Simply going into a nearby store saying that a child is sitting on a bench alone outside the store is not effective action.
A lost child in the store is one thing- it's a pretty good bet the parent is in the store. But a child sitting outside? But an announcement saying, a child is sitting on a bench outside and will the parent please go get her? What if the parent is not in the store- you letting everyone know that the child is outside unattendend? What if the parent pointedly left the child there- you might not approve but?
If it would frighten the child to have a stranger talk to her, would it be better if the stranger was a store clerk?
No, the person who is concerned has to take the risk to make inquiry of the child.
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I heard/saw an adult berating and beating a 2-3 yr old child in a WalMart parking lot, for "letting the new little puppy poop" on the (already beater-nasty) pickup seat. I yelled " Stop" and followed that adult- who was now dragging two little child- into the store and reported the situation to the manager. I guess I thought since it was on their property they needed to know... I was wrong. I was told they don't get involved but I could call the sheriff myself. UGH. They did give me the phone number, I called and gave a report, and a deputy came and took it from there. The sheriff knew by the license plate number I gave who the people were (small community) and knew where they lived.

I learned that if you see something... make the call yourself. I should have known.

When my daughter was 13, two high school boys approached her in the same Wal-Mart make-up aisle and began talking dirty to her, with one about to expose himself as I rounded the corner from just the next aisle over. I got there in time to see that something was going on with two strange boys standing too close to my daughter, and one with his hands down his pants. I spoke loudly as I approached, and the boys dispersed. I went directly up to the manager counter and spoke to him. Immediately I could tell he didn't want to get involved beyond asking me what the boys looked like...I complained that the boys were still in the store, and had even acting bold towards me, so he got the undercover shopper to follow them and then ask them to leave, and he escorted them out to their car. I followed up with a call to the local sheriff's who also followed up by asking me what the boys were wearing. They did go to the store and reviewed the tapes and said they thought they knew who they were ( one had a local high school tee shirt on). I know it was a basic he said she said until the tapes were viewed, and I was glad the sheriff's deputy took me seriously.

If nothing else, I learned to make the calls, my daughter learned not every friendly guy is safe, and that when you see something you do the right thing, and get involved. It is a bit like "Deliverance' around here so you need to use some brains too- but I'll not sit back and watch a child be hurt ( and I do not mean basic paddling type discipline here) because I was afraid to speak up.

I turned a shoplifting skanky girl in just Saturday afternoon, when I saw her reach into her purse so slyly with something in her hand., coming back out of the purse with her cellphone. She knew I saw her.

-Scrt Crk
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Children are generally more perceptive than we think about danger. The human race would have long since died out if God had not given children at least that much sense.

I'm a hoverer, I guess, to use Stan's word. With small children anyway. I can't stand to see a mother walking along in a parking lot without holding the hand of the small child beside her. I'm occasionally late because I saw someone like the girl the OP described and I sat down to guard until they were safely away. I don't worry too much about teenagers usually, particularly the ones who are up to shennanigans. So long as their shennanigans keep them far away from me. And teenage boys tend to respond differently to men most of the times. About 99% of the time they simply scatter in front of you and never cause any problems.
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When I'm out working in the burbs'(Housecleaning) I see moms all the time walking along the road NOT holding their child's hand. And these kids are LITTLE and darting about. The FREAKIN DOG is on a leash!

Too bad it's too scary to strike up a conversation with the lone child and figure out what's going on(gently). People used to talk with other people on the street, remember? Like Forest Gump sitting on the park bench waiting for the bus.
I guess I should have stayed longer....to watch her.

Considering that a child of similar age/sex was molested in Waterville second hand store while her father was looking at other stuff, and because my neighbors brother is a convicted sex offender ....I do tend to keep tabs on my kids...especially my daughters...

You can't go back in time and undo the wrong and it ain't legal to kill the perp...
Yes,

The odds of a particular child getting taken by a non-relative. Is remote IE it almost never happens. Your tooth brush is more likely to send you into the hospital. Than the girl being in danger.

Welcome to the Hover-Generation.
Have you ever heard of Adam Walsh, or do you never watch the news.

My husband watch a lot of those unsolved crime stories. Which are from real crimes. There are a lot of child abductions and molestations
You are not paranoid. A child that age should not be left alone where someone could get her quickly. However, sometimes it is hard to judge age. I was once accused of leaving my children alone in the car unattended. At the time, my oldest was 16 but looked about 12. So when the lady blocked me in the parking space (I had left my 16 yo in the car with it running but he was not driving), I brought her over to my son and had him show her his license. She was a little incensed but did leave me alone. So the age of a child may not be what you think. However a girl that looks 10 probably would not be able to fend off an attacker.

Dawn
Have you ever heard of Adam Walsh, or do you never watch the news.

My husband watch a lot of those unsolved crime stories. Which are from real crimes. There are a lot of child abductions and molestations

No there really aren't many at all. The odds are tiny.

I didn't say those affected aren't hurt or anything of the sort. But for instance how many amber alerts are for a dad or mom in a tough spot? 95% of them with the bulk of the remainder being grandparents. A tiny portion are for a real stranger.... That is what ruined them.
Children are generally more perceptive than we think about danger. The human race would have long since died out if God had not given children at least that much sense.

I'm a hoverer, I guess, to use Stan's word. With small children anyway. I can't stand to see a mother walking along in a parking lot without holding the hand of the small child beside her. I'm occasionally late because I saw someone like the girl the OP described and I sat down to guard until they were safely away. I don't worry too much about teenagers usually, particularly the ones who are up to shennanigans. So long as their shennanigans keep them far away from me. And teenage boys tend to respond differently to men most of the times. About 99% of the time they simply scatter in front of you and never cause any problems.


I agree about little kids. The girl in the OP was 10. Hardly likely to run into traffic. No? When I was ten I could do all manner of things by myself or with friends.... Like the totally crazy act of going to the local store and getting some soda or candy with the money I earned delivering news papers..... Oh, shoot I did that by my self too. :rolleyes:


IMHO too many folks watch too much TV.
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