Abby's knee

Discussion in 'Goats' started by Tamar, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Tamar

    Tamar Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    Thanks for bearing with me and all my questions about lil Abby

    Yesterday she bleated alot, and kept getting up on her hind legs, but simply couldn't get on her front legs. I helped her stand alot.

    This morning the right front knee that always looks a lil swollen, is really swollen up. She cannot even stand to do her business today :( :(

    Is it more swollen because of trying to stand so much yesterday? Is there anything I can do to take away that swelling for her?

    She is still on meds, still on bose, still on vitamins...still drinking goats milk, still has a good appetite,..... Poor lil girl it seems to go from one thing to the next! Her belly button is coming along nicely...

    Thanks again for any help, still trying to find someone who carries red cell.

    Blessings to all
    Tamar
     
  2. malickfarms

    malickfarms Well-Known Member

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    Hi
    Tamara
    I have a boar kid with naval ill and it has been a LONG process

    But she is going to survive...please call me and I can tell you everthing that has helped us.

    We had a specialist at MSU Veterinary Hosp. look at her and I have LOTS of pointers

    MY home number is 810-327-0692
    Im at work 3-7pm 810-385-4440
     

  3. goatkid

    goatkid Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The swollen knee is a symptom of her navel ill. Some babies are sucessfully treated with antibiotics. I know that Penn G and Excenel are two good ones and can be given together to fight a particularly stubborn infection.
     
  4. canadianmandy

    canadianmandy Certified Animallover!

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    Hi all,

    It was confirmed, Abby does have Navel Ill. One of the posters here, bless her heart has been a huge blessing to me. We are working round the clock with Abby, her appetite seems to go up and down but she is regular in her bladder and bowels. My question today is, she came to us with clouded over eyes, and a poster here recommended something called gentamicine (sp?) Anyways, her eyes were clearing beautifully, just one line across the middle, we were so excited for her, she was watching us and watching everything going on around her. This morning, both eyes were clouded over again. Is it possible the meds are ineffective now? She has been on the drops for a week and a half at least. Is there something stronger out there? Is this part of naval ill? Today Abby wanted to walk but didn't have strength so I supported her weight with my hand and she walked all over. I would let her carry her weight every now and again and as soon as she was ready to collapse I would support her again. She has a swollen right knee cap and now a swollen rear knee as well. Thanks for your love and prayers...and advice.

    Blessings,
    Tamar
     
  5. Idahoe

    Idahoe Menagerie More~on

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    Sounds like Abby is slowly improving. Slow is better than nothing!

    I bought the book Goat Medicine by Smith et al, and in skimming through, I read about filmy eye diseases, and it is possible with all her difficulties the organism affecting her is not responding to the gentamycin. "Mycoplasma" bacteria (the family that produces tuberculosis) also causes a cloudy cornea, and definitely needs a specific antibiotic, regular antibios don't work on those bugs.

    If you have good vet access, see if you can't get a culture on the eye secretions. Could be the bugs just mutated and don't respond to gentamycin or some other thing is in there infecting her eye. Seems weird she would stop responding in the middle of treatment.

    ETA: Oh yeah, this is why I wanted to post in the first place :D. Why not make a sling that goes under Abby's belly that you can hold in your fist to support her weight when she walks? I've seen it done with dogs with lameness, they exercise their legs without full weight bearing, and would probably be easier on your back!

    After all this time of being unable to walk, she may have "forgotten" the feeling of being upright. This would remind her little brain about the normal positioning of her body. I suppose you could do this several times a day as your schedule permits.