A buck that wont breed

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  1. Ben10

    Ben10 Active Member

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    I have 2 bucks that does seem to want to breed. I put does in the cage with them and they just sniff and nothing happens. Both bucks are a little over a year old. I have a young buck (one of the 2s kids) and he goes at it just fine. any ideas? They are NZ and cali mix.
     
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    a few things could of happened leaveing the doe and buck unattended (not watching ;as you should even if from afar ) ,a aggressive doe could of castrated the buck . the bucks could be old and artratic and just not able to mount ( very rare ) . or they are just in fear of the doe being beat up or bullied . they could be over weight which is most likely the trouble . ( never free feed the buck after 6 months of age feed an approiate amount to keep him in good but not fat shape , same with does that aren't pregnant or nurseing ) if they have been in extream heat ( over 90 ) for days this can cause sterility but if its cool now they should at least try . lastly they may be being terriorized by vermin, snakes ,dogs ect. and just scared of every thing that moves and are nervious wreaks ( kinda unlikely but worth a mention ). so check their equipment ,and fatness ,and go from there
    a buck of that type and weight prably needs no more than 1 cup of pellits + grass hay a day
     

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    I normally give them half a cup of pellets a day, I beefed it up to 1 cup. I have them inside my barn with not much light so I turned on the lights for a while now. I also got black oil sunflower seeds to give them.
     
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  4. ladytoysdream

    ladytoysdream Expect the unexpected Supporter

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    Are you sure the buck in question is a buck ?
    And are the two bucks in separate cages ?
    Depending on how long they were together as youngsters ,
    it is possible that one castrated the other one during a squabble .

    A cup of pellets a day is probably not enough for a Cal or NZ rabbit.
    I raised my share of Californians and sold quite a few for breeding stock.
    Keep hay in hay racks for them and fresh water 2x a day.

    And it is possible that the doe was not ready. Sometimes it takes more
    than a few tries.
     
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    I am sure they are both bucks, They have made baby's before. They are in separate cages right next to each other its possible that a doe did damage to them however i have never seen any blood below their cages. All of my rabbits have unlimited water via a 30 gallon tank filled with my well water. On food How much would you feed a "mutt" rabbit that is mature? I dont have hay for them, I will add some when I mow. Thank you for all of your help.
     
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    Your best bet would be to reach into the cage and get your hands on the bucks.
    FEEL them / pet them. Can you feel their backbones...then too thin.
    Flip them over in your arms, check their privates. Are they intact ?
    Check their teeth, and ears while you have them out of the cage.
    A rabbit that has a health issue is not going to want to breed.

    I keep grain in my rabbit j feeders. I don't let them run completely out.
    I am feeding rabbits 5 pounds and under currently. ( for their breed size. )
    Usually give them a handful, maybe two per feeding, which my handful is a maybe a half cup.
    I also have a measuring cup in the pail which I sometimes use. I do have a few that
    are borderline overweight but I would rather have a fat rabbit than a skinny rabbit.

    I keep second cutting hay in hay racks attached to the outside of their cages 24/7.
    If they eat their grain, then they have hay to munch on. Keeps fiber in their bellies.

    I don't breed in the winter. Too cold here in NY. I don't like losing babies.
    My building protects them from wind, rain, snow. I can't control the temps however.
     
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    Not sure what your rabbit weighs but thinking around 10 pounds maybe.
    NZ / Cal mix. I would not call him a mutt.
    Crossing a Californian and a NZ gives you hybrid vigor. Fast growing babies.
    I would think a cup of grain in the morning and maybe the same at night.
    If you were feeding them hay, that would help the grain bill.
    Adjust accordingly the grain to what they eat.
     
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    anniew keep it simple and honest Supporter

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    Last weekend I harvested New Zealands. They all had too much fat. Although they had access to pellets all the time, I estimate that they ate about a cup a day, so don't know why they had a lot of fat. They were all about 2 years old in cages.
     
  9. KHoward

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    I have a proven Cal buck and normally he is a champ. However, I have two new does that are just under a year and are ready to be bred. I put doe #1 in the buck's cage and she chased him and mounted him and now he is cowering in the corner of the cage. So after leaving them together (supervised) for a few hours with no action, I removed doe #1 and put doe #2 in with the buck. The same exact thing happened!! In fact, doe #2 literally threw herself at him, rolling on her back, and putting her head under his chin, etc.

    However, I put doe #3 in his cage and she was less assertive and there were three successful matings in the span of 15 minutes.

    I haven't seen this before and will have to assume that if I put a doe in with the buck for a day, that things will work out.

    Both of the new does seem to be biters, and I wonder if it is because they haven't been bred yet.
     
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    These days I would run and hide as well......LOL
    Sorry I couldn't resist
     
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    LOL. Yeah, probably safer to lay low ;). Maybe I should play some Barry White for them...
     
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    Not a good idea to leave buck and doe in same cage without keeping an eye on them.
    She could hurt him. Then he might become more timid than he is now.
    Just keep trying them every day until you see results. You may have to hold the doe
    and let the buck do his thing. Just young does that need to learn the routine and
    should settle down after having babies.
     
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