3pt. conversion kit

I am not familiar with the back end of the 51 Farmall. Questions: Does it have a PTO shaft? Does it have a drawbar? Does the drawbar raise/lower with hydraulics? A friend of mine did a 3pt conversion on an old International 240. It was simply a matter of bolting on a bracket for the draglink. If you need to modify/add things like hydraulics, you will be in for a tough time.

 

if i remember right the C has hydrolics,the B does not i have an old B and suspect the add on 3 point would almost equal the value of the tractor ,they are good little tractors but a little light to be doing much lifting id say if your doing some light 3 point work and mabey a loader then invest in one of the small tractors designed for that taken care of the value should not depriciatethe C is a good rowcrop and light tillage /pulling tractor but not made for the work you want it for.

 

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I have seen a superC with 3pt kit or maybe it was homemade version cant remember. These are small tractor but bigger than a high boy cub. I think it could handle 4foot brushhog or even a 5ft for light duty use. I've seen Allis Chalmers that size run a 5ft brushhog. Also maybe a small blade and a one bottom plow. You may end up needing weight added to front end for some applications. Dont expect miracles and it will work. Personally I think the kits are way overpriced. When I wanted to put 3pt on my old Allis WD, I just measured 3pt system on modern tractor that size and welded up my own. I have bunch scrap iron around and I weld so dont think it cost me over $25 and that was because I needed some pins and swivels, etc. It worked just fine and I made it adjustable although not as fancy as factory version. I also cant remember if superC has a lift or not built in. If you need a hydraulic cylinder to operate the 3pt hitch it will cost more. And if you need an add on hydraulic pump and control unit, more yet. My WD had an Allis proprietary design hydraulic lift system. I just used it as part of the 3 point system.

 

Deb, why don't you post some pics(of the tractor) and let all us old red necks have alook so we can commenserate about all the possibilities of your new mochine , ..........fordy :worship:

 

Before you start "accessorizing" another mans tractor I'd look around for a good used machine of a more modern nature that will deliver mechanical Solutions for your problems rather than having to constantly worry about some old thing that will be aconstant drain on your visa card........fordy...

 

Here is a Super C or maybe its just a C with 3pt hitch. Nice job, suspect it is a kit athough it wouldnt be hard to weld up something simular. This particular C must have just had the front cultivator lift and notice how the designer of the 3 point hitch raises hitch by connecting hitch to the cultivator lift with cable. I also found a Super C with a 2-point IHC proprietary lift kit. I liked that IHC 2 pt lift system on older IHC tractors and it was really easy to convert to 3pt when necessary. As to draft control, I have seen work arounds, not as nice as real draft control. A one bottom pull type plow might be little rare unless you custom make one out of an old 2bottom plow. Only one bottom trailer type plows I have seen were made for horse use and had seat for rider on them. If I were to suggest how to adapt one of these horse drawn sulky plows, I would say weld on a three point setup to attach to tractors 3 pt system, then instead of a third arm use a relatively slack chain. This would let plow be set to depth and pull on its own wheels while plowing, then at end of row lift 3 point lift on tractor is raised, taking up slack in chain and entire plow wheels and all come up into air. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

I like wide front also especially with loader. However its a misconception that the tricylce front is inheritantly unstable just because it is tricycle design. Its more that tricycle type tractors were designed as row crop tractors and were high off the ground to allow clearance when cultivating crops. This high design makes for a high center of gravity (bulk of weight is high off ground) thus making it far more unstable than a tractor with low center of gravity. By way there were wide front end kits sold for many older tractors. Those handy with welder tended to just adapt a front beam axle from an old style pickup. Lot cheaper but not as adjustible.

 

Depends on the soil. If you have some kind of light sandy or high organic matter soil then sure you might pull a 2-12 or a 2-14. If you have heavier soil then I would imagine the tractor would really struggle.

I plow with a Massey Harris 444. This is a 6000 pound tractor with about 45hp I would guess. I can pull a 3-14 but its a struggle in heavily sodded clay and not much point just to do garden type area. Much easier when I converted plow to 2-14. Remember this is a much heavier and more powerful tractor than a SuperC. Now admitting my tractor is not at power that it had out of factory, l can say from childhood memory: Dad had a Super M Farmall. In Iowa clay loam, it could happily pull 3-16. My grandfather had a Super H Farmall and it could handle a 2-16. A regular H could pull a 2-14 All these were bigger than a Super C. so......I would think a one bottom 14 inch or 16 inch plow would be about limit. If you are just plowing a garden then dont think struggling with a 2 bottom plow would have any advantage.

As to Bolens are you referring to something like this:



If it is, then either you are plowing feathers or that must be a really tiny two bottom plow.