Ok, when someone said 10 minutes to hand milk, it was a misprint and they meant 10 hours...right?! I think after about 40 minutes I got about 1-2 quarts...hard to tell since she peed in the 1st bucket I dumped and kicked over the second one. I'm glad I know someone who can come over and help me learn the right finger motion. I can get a good stream by closing the top and then rolling that finger down, but this multiple finger roll thing doesn't seem to come naturally to me. I also don't know how to hold the bucket between my legs and milk. I had to set it on the floor and aim. I'm thinking of putting a stand under it (to make it easier for her to kick over My only bright spot is I keep reassuring myself that every person who ever milked must have had a day like mine and I really will learn how to milk. Thank God at least she is letting me milk her. I hope I learn to be more effective before her milk comes in in the next two days or that poor gal is going to be in pain from my not getting as much as she wants to give. I guess that will be one more benefit of keeping the calf on her while I'm learning my elbow from my knee. ANY HINTS WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED!!!