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Personal drones no longer need to be registered with FAA

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#1 ·
https://www.rt.com/usa/389031-court-faa-drone-registraion/

Personal drones no longer need to be registered with FAA, US federal court rules
A federal appeals court has shot down a rule that would require non-commercial drones be registered, a decision that critics say will make the skies less safe.

On Friday, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled in favor of John Taylor, a small unmanned aircraft (UAS) enthusiast, who first brought a case against the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2016.

“Taylor does not think that the FAA had the statutory authority to issue the Registration Rule and require him to register,” Circuit Judge Brett Kavanaugh wrote in the decision. “Taylor is right.”

The three-judge panel argued that the agency was barred from imposing new regulations on “model aircraft” due to a law that was passed by Congress and signed by former President Barack Obama in 2012.

The court said the FAA was violated the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, which states that the agency “may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft” so long as that aircraft is less than 55 pounds and only used recreationally.
 
#6 ·
I've read long debates on other forums regarding drones. Who owns the airspace, who has rights to privacy from what, etc etc.
If I'm on good terms with my neighbor and he's hovering a drone over my backyard, I'll make a friendly gesture to his camera and/or a brief visit. If I don't know who owns the drone, or it is someone who isn't on my "A" list, its liable to have mechanical difficulties and get swallowed up during set down and not be recoverable.

If I recall, there was a case in Kentucky where the HO shot the drone out of the sky while it was overhead recording his teenage daughter and her friend sunbathing. Some folks consider that no different that a guy peeking in a woman's bedroom window and they respond accordingly.
 
#7 ·
If I recall, there was a case in Kentucky where the HO shot the drone out of the sky while it was overhead recording his teenage daughter and her friend sunbathing.
That was the allegation but I don't recall if it was ever proven.
There's no way of knowing what a drone is doing when viewed from the ground.

I suspect there will be lots of restrictions in the coming years when the problems become more common.
 
#9 ·
I remember that case, he used a handgun too, I believe, if it's the same one.
No, he used a shotgun.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/drones/news/a16834/footage-of-drone-shot-out-of-the-sky/

Last month, William Merideth was arrested for first-degree criminal mischief and first-degree wanton endangerment after shotgunning a quadcopter out of the sky when it allegedly flew over his home in Hillview, Kentucky. This is what that looked like to the drone.

This video—released by the drone's pilot, David Boggs —comes as the latest piece of evidence in a long he-said-she-said battle over exactly what happened the day the drone was shot. Merideth claims the drone was flying some 10 feet above the ground, peeking into windows.
Anything harassing my livelihood is a predator
How is flying overhead "harassing your livelihood"?
 
#14 ·
well id do it this way 2 shows fine bird shot --then 2 of slightly higher shot -then 2 slightly higher than the 2nd type ---semi auto and stop when empty or its down ---I know ive seen people say buckshot --but id rather have MORE smaller pellets flying its way better chance its hit and less collateral damage downrange
having said that ---id prefer to make sure the drones owner happened to be downrange just in case I get 2birds with one stone :)
 
#22 ·
A motto at work is "if you fly, we can't". They have been interfering in air tanker and helicopter operations on wildfires. Have been caught flying way over their height limits etc., and not leaving the restricted airspace during those incidents.

I don't like lookee loers driving by, I for dang sure don't want them flying overheard. Out in the boonies outside of developed areas and away from emergency situations, then fine knock yourselves out. Don't bring innocent people into your flights.
 
#28 ·
Your the parent to two young daughters.
Suppose you had a neighbor next door, say 75' between your house and his, and a privacy fence in between. He had a utility pole/flag pole/tower of some sort in his backyard. On that pole he had a security camera pointed right down over the fence directly at your house/patio/swimming pool. Everytime you or your family member walked out the back door the red light would come on the camera, indicating it was recording. That neighbor is non responsive to your requests that he point it in another direction.
Suppose Walmart/Amazon/Ebay in their near future widespread program are sending a delivery drone over your property several times every day enroute to a customer. One malfunctions and lands in your bushes narrowly missing one of your daughters.
What is the intent of both scenarios?
What are your legal rights in these cases?
The former never crosses any physical boundaries yet what they are doing is pretty clear.
The latter is annoying, yet considered commerce over the latest "public highway".
The times they are a changing folks.
 
#29 · (Edited)
You guys quit going out in your pot garden nekkid, you won't have to worry nearly as much.

I'd send my own drone to attack their drones, if I was being droned. Drone Wars.

After all, if you're a sheep dorper, or an okra puller, inquiring minds gonna want to know
 
#36 · (Edited)
Vertebrate Mammal Pasture Livestock Cow-goat family
After all, if you're a sheep dorper, or an okra puller, inquiring minds gonna want to know
"Dorper" is a breed of hair sheep from South Africa.
I'm pretty sure you mean something else,

Dorper
The Dorper is a South African breed of domestic sheep developed by crossing Dorset Horn and the Blackhead Persian sheep. The breed was created through the efforts of the South African Department of Agriculture to breed a meat sheep suitable to the more arid regions of the country. It is now farmed in other areas as well, and is the second most common sheep breed in South Africa.
Vertebrate Mammal Pasture Livestock Cow-goat family
 
#30 ·
I live in steep mountainous topography. It is unreasonable to expect privacy on your own land. Somebody, somewhere can see you. Doesn't matter if it's a neighbor with binoculars, or the guys at the sheriff's office with satellite technology, or someone driving by. I find drones less offensive than state police helicopters. If people wouldn't move to the sticks so they could grow pot, we would all be better off. In some instances, shooting into the air is dangerous.

If you shot my drone down, because you thought it was spying on you, (I wonder how many of these people have actually seen what these more affordable models are capable of viewing, or tried to operate one) I would definitely have the law out checking your operation. "Looked like he was watering some bushes of some kind and then pow". Even though I was just trying to keep from wrecking from the wind, and couldn't really see much but dots where the houses were. Spend less than a couple grand, and it's doubtful that you would be able to check out anybodies sunbathing pot plants before you ran out of battery.
 
#31 ·
In my area most drones that are high altitude are government, the low flying ones generally are drug smugglers. The smugglers use them to spot easy access.
 
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