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Old 03/26/12, 07:45 AM
 
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The language has been amended to exclude 330's but doesn't do anything to protect dogs as these videos show.

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Old 03/26/12, 12:38 PM
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I was out walking yesterday and Ace found a box on the ground. No telling what would happen if there was a trap in there. Of course the box is placed right at the entrance of a minimum maintenance road 3 feet off the road.
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I find them while hiking too. Some people are too lazy to pick them up at the end of the season.

As soon as my new camera gets here we'll be making more videos to add to the SafeDogMN channel.
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Old 03/26/12, 05:36 PM
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Trappers are lowering the populations of wild animals that could attack a pet, child or even adult. I believe that limiting the trapping will increase the likelyhood of a pet getting attacked by a wild animal. We had several wolf attacks on pets last year. In towns and on nearby roads and hiking trails. Alaska has marking requirements for all traps. Seasons and requirements to remove traps at the end of the season. I won't take my dogs out in the woods during trapping season. The trappers around my place know that I won't go on or near their traplines unless I find their traps on my land.

Eliminating trapping will create more problems than it fixes.

Sorry for your loss. I am a dog person too.
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Old 03/26/12, 05:52 PM
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Lonely tree, the point isn't to eliminate trapping. Maybe its different in Alaska but here 220# are set during grouse season and often baited with grouse. Fishhead traps and I used to trap. When I did trap, I used to only use #220's. There is no reason they can't be placed off the ground and that is why I support the bill.
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Trappers are lowering the populations of wild animals that could attack a pet, child or even adult. I believe that limiting the trapping will increase the likelyhood of a pet getting attacked by a wild animal. We had several wolf attacks on pets last year. In towns and on nearby roads and hiking trails. Alaska has marking requirements for all traps. Seasons and requirements to remove traps at the end of the season. I won't take my dogs out in the woods during trapping season. The trappers around my place know that I won't go on or near their traplines unless I find their traps on my land.

Eliminating trapping will create more problems than it fixes.

Sorry for your loss. I am a dog person too.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with banning trapping or even banning body grips. They are good traps and we should be able to continue to use them in ways that don't kill dogs.

Look at the videos and you'll see that no one is advocating banning trapping in my videos.
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mn state has no leash law BUT every city ,, town does ..
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In some cases verbal control is considered leashed.

I've seen many cases where some trappers try to put the responsibility for the traps they hide on public land onto the dog owner and shirk their own responsibility for setting it. That ain't gonna fly. If anything it's going to further damage the image of trapping beyond a few trappers killing our dogs with their reckless behavior.
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Old 05/17/12, 12:27 PM
 
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WCCO just did another news segment on the body grip trap bill. The bill that passed is worthless so we are forced to go back to the legislature next session. By then more dogs will have been killed in body grips set exactly to the new laws specifications.

Dog Owners Concerned Over Traps Even After Legislation Passes CBS Minnesota

Our videos on SafeDogMN - YouTube show just how ineffective the new law will be at protecting our dogs.
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Our group is up and running. We have non-profit status in place.

Here's our website. DogLovers4SafeTrappingMN

We'll be sending out press releases soon to all the major news organizations across the state.
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isnt it better to just BAN trapping in that manner? If you think your dogs suffer...think about how those animals died. Pretty gruesome.
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isnt it better to just BAN trapping in that manner? If you think your dogs suffer...think about how those animals died. Pretty gruesome.
Body grip traps are the most humane method of trapping that we have and if we are going to kill an animal I believe it should be done as humanely as possible. Our group is completely focused on ensuring that those traps are set where dogs cannot reach them and be killed.
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Old 11/04/12, 09:58 AM
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Another dog caught and it wasn't a 220.

Chiweenie, caught in body gripping trap.
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Another dog caught and it wasn't a 220.

Chiweenie, caught in body gripping trap.
The season opened at 9 am and the first dog was dead before dark. We were told by the MN Trappers Association, Rep. McNamara and Senator Ingebrigtsen that no more dogs would be killed. As expected it hasn't even slowed the slaughter of our dogs.

So far I know of 6 MN dogs that have been killed in body grips since the season started. That's a total of 13 for 2012 so far and the traps are still baited with meat and on the ground.
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Another MN dog was killed in a recklessly set body grip trap yesterday. That brings the yearly total to AT LEAST 14.

It sounds like the trapper is going to get sued this time.
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Was it placed on private land?
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Yes it was on private land. That will not exempt the trapper from the lawsuit because he created an attractive nuisance that attracted the dog. If they sue and it goes before a jury it should be easy to show that a dog cannot read and can easily be enticed to trespass. Also, body grip traps baited with meat have a long history of killing dogs.

The attorney we spoke with was very confident that the trapper could be held accountable even if the trap was legally set.
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A second dog was killed last Sunday. That brings the total of just the ones we know of to 15. Undoubtedly there are dogs lying in the brush after the trapper who killed them found them in his trap. There may also be dogs that were quietly buried by the owner.

It was killed on a trail that I had recently considered taking my new dog to run. I would not have turned my dog loose if there ATV tracks around the gate and I would have kept the leash on for the first 1/2 mile.
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After combining the DNR report and ours. The body count has gone up to 16.
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Wouldn't the problem end if pet owners kept their animals inside on their own property? I'm sure a lot of people shoot animals that come, uninvited onto their property.

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I think you will fit right in with some of our trappers with that attitude. That is why trapping will probably be illegal in the future.

FYI on MN county and state land dogs do NOT need to be leashed because we hunt in this state. It's also legal to let your dog run while you enjoy a walk on the public land.
Doesn't one bear some of the responsibility for their dog's demise if they don't keep their dogs under their control? If you know these traps are set, you are knowingly taking the chance your dog will be killed. Trappers are trying to making a living and/or feeding their families. What would you do if they fight for laws requiring pet owners to keep their dogs leashed?

Wouldn't people and animals be at risk if the traps were put up on poles? How would that keep pets from being hurt? I'm not a trapper and don't understand what difference a pole would make. How would one make a pole stay in the ground?
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